I've just had the glow plugs on my 306 changed and on picking it up have
noticed that it a lot more smoke is being discharged from the exhaust,
especially at >2500rpm.
The garage had to remove the manifold in order to change the plugs. I
assume that they did something wrong when replacing it.
Can anyone suggest a possible cause of the problem?
Syptoms are excess smoke from the exhaust at >2500 rpm and accelerating
to a speed above 60 is proving very hard too.
Thanks in advance, Dan.

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Phil Cook - 27 Mar 2006 17:48 GMT
>I've just had the glow plugs on my 306 changed and on picking it up have
>noticed that it a lot more smoke is being discharged from the exhaust,
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>Syptoms are excess smoke from the exhaust at >2500 rpm and accelerating
>to a speed above 60 is proving very hard too.
Take it back sharpish and get them to sort it. Make sure you get it
seen to by their chief mechanic and not their spotty geek trainee.
danw - 27 Mar 2006 20:25 GMT
> Take it back sharpish and get them to sort it. Make sure you get it
> seen to by their chief mechanic and not their spotty geek trainee.
Yes, I've done this already and they are being a little hopeless, saying
they can't see what the problem is and that they are going to contact
Peugeot. I don't really trust them.
Serves me right for using an unknown garage instead of my normal
reliable one.
I'll apply a little more pressure tomorrow.
dan.

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Chris - 27 Mar 2006 20:38 GMT
Name the Garage in shame on this list please.
Chris Addlestone Surrey
> > Take it back sharpish and get them to sort it. Make sure you get it
> > seen to by their chief mechanic and not their spotty geek trainee.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> dan.
danw - 27 Mar 2006 20:50 GMT
> Name the Garage in shame on this list please.
> Chris Addlestone Surrey
Bottisham motors, Bottisham, Cambridge.
No sniggering at the back please.
dan

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Mark Rae - 27 Mar 2006 19:34 GMT
>I've just had the glow plugs on my 306 changed and on picking it up have
>noticed that it a lot more smoke is being discharged from the exhaust,
>especially at >2500rpm.
>The garage had to remove the manifold in order to change the plugs. I
>assume that they did something wrong when replacing it.
>Can anyone suggest a possible cause of the problem?
>Syptoms are excess smoke from the exhaust at >2500 rpm and accelerating
>to a speed above 60 is proving very hard too.
Is this a turbo diesel? If so check that the rubber pipe running
from the front of the intercooler to the injector pump has been
pushed back on properly. Without that the car will refuse to go
much above 60.
If it isn't that, then as other posters have said, take it
back to the garage as soon as possible.
-Mark
nigel - 28 Mar 2006 22:29 GMT
>>I've just had the glow plugs on my 306 changed and on picking it up have
>>noticed that it a lot more smoke is being discharged from the exhaust,
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> -Mark
And as well as that I would check the "D" seal where the intercooler
joins the inlet manifold. This can stretch and distort. Renew if in
any doubt. Also check the big inlet pipe on the offside of the
intercooler. Make sure the jubillee clip is tight.
Brian - 27 Mar 2006 23:39 GMT
> I've just had the glow plugs on my 306 changed and on picking it up have
> noticed that it a lot more smoke is being discharged from the exhaust,
> especially at >2500rpm.
>
> The garage had to remove the manifold in order to change the plugs. I
> assume that they did something wrong when replacing it.
Did they really say that? The manifolds are both on the other side of the
engine. Certainly don't need to touch them to change the glow plugs.
I hope they really meant the intercooler, unless they don't know the
difference.
Check all the pipes are connected, and try to find out exactly what they
touched when doing this job.
dan.woodford@gmail.com - 28 Mar 2006 08:39 GMT
{sorry, posting via google]
I'm certain they said manifold. Either way, it looks like they removed
the large silver part on top of the engine that has the air hose
connected to it. (Apologies for severe lack of technical knowledge
about my engine).
Thanks for the advice.
Dan
Phil Cook - 28 Mar 2006 14:21 GMT
>{sorry, posting via google]
>
>I'm certain they said manifold. Either way, it looks like they removed
>the large silver part on top of the engine that has the air hose
>connected to it. (Apologies for severe lack of technical knowledge
>about my engine).
That sounds like the intercooler. If they don't know what it is then
it's a pound to a shilling they don't know what they are doing. I
would suggest that you tell them to get somebody who does know what
they are doing to look at it at their expense or you will be paying
your council's trading standards department a visit.
Chris - 28 Mar 2006 16:56 GMT
SO NAME THE GARAGE IN SHAME.THEN WE WILL NOT USE THEM.
> >{sorry, posting via google]
> >
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> they are doing to look at it at their expense or you will be paying
> your council's trading standards department a visit.
Malc - 28 Mar 2006 21:17 GMT
> SO NAME THE GARAGE IN SHAME.THEN WE WILL NOT USE THEM.
He already has yesterday in reply to your post.

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danw - 30 Mar 2006 21:13 GMT
> I've just had the glow plugs on my 306 changed and on picking it up have
> noticed that it a lot more smoke is being discharged from the exhaust,
> especially at >2500rpm.
[snip]
So, after much head scratching, calls to a peugeot mechanic and general
bafflement, they told me that they thought my fuel (injection) pump was
shot. They deduced this because the pipe that ran back to the fuel tank
had small amounts of copper(?) in it.
They showed me this when I went to pick the car up tonight but it didn't
look like much detritus to me and I was surprised that this was the only
sign of the pump being at fault.
They told me that I would be looking at between £500 and £800 for the
part but they may be able to get my existing one reconditioned. I told
them I needed the car to get home tonight and that I would think about
what I would do over the weekend.
So they put everything back in place in order that I could drive home. I
drove home at 70 mph with no smoke and decent acceleration.
Looks like they fixed the problem. Without knowing they fixed the
problem.....
Won't be going there again then ;)
dan

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Chris - 30 Mar 2006 21:15 GMT
So Name the Garage, and if it is near me i make sure that i will never use it or other ppl in my area.
from chris Addlestone Surrey
> > I've just had the glow plugs on my 306 changed and on picking it up have
> > noticed that it a lot more smoke is being discharged from the exhaust,
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>
> dan
Keith Willcocks - 31 Mar 2006 10:28 GMT
Chris, you really must read the back threads, he named it after your first
request and this is your third.

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>"Chris" <chris@thingysrealm.myftp.org> wrote in message
> >news:20060330211559.b440ba08.chris@thingysrealm.myftp.org...
>So Name the Garage, and if it is near me i make sure that i will never use
>it or other ppl in my area.
>from chris Addlestone Surrey
On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 21:13:50 +0100
danw <danwoodford@googlesmailservice.com> wrote:
> > I've just had the glow plugs on my 306 changed and on picking it up have
> > noticed that it a lot more smoke is being discharged from the exhaust,
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>
> dan
Chris - 31 Mar 2006 19:23 GMT
I have looked back and i cant find it .. so if got the Garage name please put it on the site . thanks
from chris Addlestone Surrey
> Chris, you really must read the back threads, he named it after your first
> request and this is your third.
[quoted text clipped - 36 lines]
> >
> > dan
Keith Willcocks - 01 Apr 2006 11:21 GMT
Chris,
Here is a copy of his original reply to your first request:
> Name the Garage in shame on this list please.
> Chris Addlestone Surrey
Bottisham motors, Bottisham, Cambridge.
No sniggering at the back please.
dan
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>I have looked back and i cant find it .. so if got the Garage name please
>put it on the site . thanks
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>> >
>> > dan
nigel - 01 Apr 2006 00:34 GMT
>Chris, you really must read the back threads, he named it after your first
>request and this is your third.
I never saw the name either, but it WAS posted. Had to go through
Google Groups though
Bottisham motors, Bottisham, Cambridge
Phil Cook - 01 Apr 2006 12:11 GMT
>>Chris, you really must read the back threads, he named it after your first
>>request and this is your third.
>I never saw the name either, but it WAS posted. Had to go through
>Google Groups though
>Bottisham motors, Bottisham, Cambridge
Google groups, mutter mutter...
Why not get a newsreader... <checks header> Oh you have. Then why is
it not possible to back up a a few messages and see it? You have got
Agent set to group messages by thread haven't you? Just click that |+>
(bad ascii version of real button) at the top of the message list. Of
course you may have it set to hide read messages in which case right
click on Unread Messages at the top of the list to select All
Messages.
Keith Willcocks - 01 Apr 2006 13:48 GMT
>>>Chris, you really must read the back threads, he named it after your
>>>first
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> click on Unread Messages at the top of the list to select All
> Messages.
Or his news server may miss some postings out which was a major failing with
the BT news servers until a couple of weeks ago when they out sourced to
Giganews.

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