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les@hollandworld.freeserve.co.uk - 06 Jun 2006 21:29 GMT
Switched on the A/C today for the first time this year and nothing.Any
simple checks anyone could recommend or is it definetly a garage job.It
worked fine up to last September.Any advice appreciated.
Malc - 06 Jun 2006 21:49 GMT
> Switched on the A/C today for the first time this year and nothing.Any
> simple checks anyone could recommend or is it definetly a garage
> job.It worked fine up to last September.Any advice appreciated.

Often it can be because the seals have gone if it hasn't been used. You're
supposed to use them for at least 15 minutes a month (if not a week). A
cheap and cheerful way is to get a top up cannister from Halfords. For £17
or so it will repressurise the system and if it springs back to life then
you'll know the problem. Replacing seals is probably a specialist job
because of the gasses involved. A simple refill will be about £50. It's
possible that there's no power to the electric clutch in the compressor due
to another fault but the clutch won't engage if there's no pressure.

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ib - 07 Jun 2006 06:51 GMT
> Switched on the A/C today for the first time this year and nothing.Any
> simple checks anyone could recommend or is it definetly a garage job.It
> worked fine up to last September.Any advice appreciated.

If you're anywhere near Poole I'd be happy to take a look

www.poolecool.co.uk
Nom - 07 Jun 2006 08:57 GMT
>Switched on the A/C today for the first time this year...

Lack of use has caused your seals to dry up, and all the gas to escape. You need
to use your aircon all the time, get in the habit of running it on at least a
weekly basis.
Note that it doesn't have to blow cold air - it works as a dehumidifier whatever
you set the temperature to.

>and nothing.Any
>simple checks anyone could recommend or is it definetly a garage job.It
>worked fine up to last September.Any advice appreciated.

Get out your Yellow Pages, and phone some local AirCon guys. You'll be able to
get it regassed for around £50, and this will include them adding a dye to the
system. So if it does have any leaks (unlikely - it's prolly just the seals as
above), they can be spotted.
Brian - 07 Jun 2006 11:13 GMT
> Switched on the A/C today for the first time this year and nothing.Any
> simple checks anyone could recommend or is it definetly a garage job.It
> worked fine up to last September.Any advice appreciated.

As Malc says, try one of the regassing bottles from Halfords, they also
contain a sealant which will help if the seals are a bit dry. If it then
still won't work, it's a specialist job.
Ken - 07 Jun 2006 13:33 GMT
> Switched on the A/C today for the first time this year and nothing.Any
> simple checks anyone could recommend or is it definetly a garage job.It
> worked fine up to last September.Any advice appreciated.

As others have pointed out, if you do not use your a/c during the
winter, the seals glue up and the first time you turn on you lose all
your gas.

So why would anyone use a/c in the winter?

Simple. There is no method quicker than turning on the a/c to de-fog
inside the windows. As you will know from seeing a pool of water under
your car below the a/c, the a/c reduces the humidity of the air and,
especially if you also run the heater, your windows clear in a flash.

And if you do this two/three times during the winter you will probably
save your seals and your gas.
Keith Willcocks - 07 Jun 2006 17:49 GMT
>> Switched on the A/C today for the first time this year and nothing.Any
>> simple checks anyone could recommend or is it definetly a garage job.It
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> And if you do this two/three times during the winter you will probably
> save your seals and your gas.

My repairer suggests leaving the A/C on permanently,    He reckons the
additional fuel cost is far less than having to re-gas and have new seals
fitted.   I have to admit that, whereas my 405 with belt driven A/C used an
additional 5mpg, I have not noticed any real difference in mpg on the 406
with or without the A/C.
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Mike - 07 Jun 2006 18:09 GMT
> Switched on the A/C today for the first time this year and nothing.Any
> simple checks anyone could recommend or is it definetly a garage job.It
> worked fine up to last September.Any advice appreciated.

I thought about doing it myself but decided to let a specialist do it, It
seems they have to vacuum the system  before re-gassing it. If you know how
to do it try the a/c kits you can buy but I thought £60 for someone to
re-gas my car was not bad . I know I would have botched it up.
Malc - 07 Jun 2006 21:28 GMT
>> Switched on the A/C today for the first time this year and
>> nothing.Any simple checks anyone could recommend or is it definetly
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> for someone to re-gas my car was not bad . I know I would have
> botched it up.

You can't regas properly at home. The pukka job involves sucking out the old
gas and refilling with a specific amount. The Halfords kit really just
repressurises. I have used one on my old Xantia just before I sold it
because there was no way I was going to pay £200 for a recon compressor and
regassing. It did work but it isn't a kosher solution.

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Doofer - 08 Jun 2006 20:05 GMT
Cheers chaps
I am going to take it to a garage for a regas
I did consider the halfords option but if it is something bigger like
the seals then I would end up there anyway.

once again cheers Les.

> >> Switched on the A/C today for the first time this year and
> >> nothing.Any simple checks anyone could recommend or is it definetly
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> because there was no way I was going to pay £200 for a recon compressor and
> regassing. It did work but it isn't a kosher solution.
 
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