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jacques rebourg - 15 Jul 2006 19:27 GMT
Hello
I made the acquirement a few months ago of a 406
It sometimes arrives that the motor doesn't want to start without obvious
reason
Agents Peugeot don't find anything
One only said to me that maybe the padlock could be in reason, but without
other explanation.

One among you would have him knowledge of this kind of problem and how
to solve it?
By advance thank you for your suggestions and advice.

Cordially.
JR
Nota:  Excuse my bad english
Fitzy - 15 Jul 2006 23:16 GMT
> Hello
> I made the acquirement a few months ago of a 406
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> JR
> Nota:  Excuse my bad english

Hi JR
Find the fan motor, check the black wire, (earth) and the red wire
connectors, sometimes they get hot and cause bad connections,
Fitzy
nigel - 16 Jul 2006 19:28 GMT
>> Hello
>> I made the acquirement a few months ago of a 406
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>connectors, sometimes they get hot and cause bad connections,
>Fitzy

Hmmm, or could he mean the engine doesn't start, and the dealer is
suggesting that the immobiliser is faulty. And if it is intermittent,
it could be the aeriel around the ignition lock. Maybe if Jacques
could repost in French and GT could give us a quick translation??
Fitzy - 16 Jul 2006 22:41 GMT
>>> Hello
>>> I made the acquirement a few months ago of a 406
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> it could be the aeriel around the ignition lock. Maybe if Jacques
> could repost in French and GT could give us a quick translation??

I agree,,, come on GT
Fitzy
jacques rebourg - 17 Jul 2006 13:26 GMT
> Hmmm, or could he mean the engine doesn't start, and the dealer is
> suggesting that the immobiliser is faulty. And if it is intermittent,
> it could be the aeriel around the ignition lock. Maybe if Jacques
> could repost in French and GT could give us a quick translation??

Hi nigel

Thanks for explications, but what is aeriel? and GT ?
Cordially

Jacques
G.T - 18 Jul 2006 08:51 GMT
Hi,

> Thanks for explications, but what is aeriel? and GT ?
They're talking about the transponder's aerial, which is around the Neiman.
And I am GT :-)

Ils parlent de l'antenne du transpondeur, qui est autour du Neiman.

a+,
G.T
205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel : www.205d.com
jacques rebourg - 18 Jul 2006 15:42 GMT
Hi to all

> Hi,
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> G.T
> 205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel : www.205d.com

Thank you for all your explanations, now I understood the 2 uncertain
breakdown possibilities and, I am going to ask the mechanics to verify the
transpondeur and possibly the contacts of Neiman.

Thank you again
Jacques
NB: GT J'ai noté tes coordonnées au cas OU
G.T - 18 Jul 2006 09:40 GMT
Hi,

> Hmmm, or could he mean the engine doesn't start, and the dealer is
> suggesting that the immobiliser is faulty. And if it is intermittent,
Just found it on another NG, yeah that's it : engine not starting,
intermittent fault.
When he brings the car to a Pug dealer they don't find anything, as the car
works. One of them told him this could come from the steal-lock, but with no
further explaination.

Could be the transponder aerial, but I have another (far more vicious, hence
I prefer this) : neiman's contacts worn out. I guess it's almost the same
wiring than on Xantia's, and it's a common fault with A/C, as the aircon
wiring goes thru the lock.
Almost the same than on "big engine powered" 205s (GTi / D / TD) with heavy
mileage (but it was starter motor-related), if you see what I mean.

Regards,
G.T
205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel : www.205d.com
R.N. Robinson - 18 Jul 2006 15:21 GMT
> Could be the transponder aerial, but I have another (far more vicious,
> hence
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> heavy
> mileage (but it was starter motor-related), if you see what I mean.

I seem to remember that there was mention a while back of ignition keys
becoming very hot when the fan was running on the 406.  Is there a clue here
somewhere?

Ron Robinson
John Ricketts - 18 Jul 2006 15:29 GMT
I had the switch on the back of my ignition lock (1998 406) swapped about 2
1/2 years ago as the aux contacts had burnt out. It started losing the fan
again occasionally about 6 months ago, and is getting worse. I reckon its
burnt out again. It does seem a weakness on these!

>> Could be the transponder aerial, but I have another (far more vicious,
>> hence
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Ron Robinson
G.T - 18 Jul 2006 16:08 GMT
Hi,

> 1/2 years ago as the aux contacts had burnt out. It started losing the fan
> again occasionally about 6 months ago, and is getting worse. I reckon its
> burnt out again. It does seem a weakness on these!
Yeah, and I'm surprised, as there doesn't seem to be any official mod / fix.
I imagine fitting a relay would be a cost-effective & easy fix.

Regards,
G.T
205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel : www.205d.com
John Ricketts - 18 Jul 2006 16:11 GMT
The official fix is to sell you a new ignition switch ever 2 years!

> Hi,
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> G.T
> 205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel : www.205d.com
G.T - 18 Jul 2006 16:07 GMT
Hi,

> I seem to remember that there was mention a while back of ignition keys
> becoming very hot when the fan was running on the 406.  Is there a clue here
> somewhere?
Possibly, not sure about that, though.

Regards,
G.T
205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel : www.205d.com
Keith Willcocks - 19 Jul 2006 09:43 GMT
>> Could be the transponder aerial, but I have another (far more vicious,
>> hence
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> becoming very hot when the fan was running on the 406.  Is there a clue
> here somewhere?

I posted about the key getting hot.   After some experimenting by Nigel, and
comments from others who experienced the same thing, we concluded that it
was because the blower motor draws its power through the ignition switch.
Certainly it only happens when the blower is in continuous use (such as the
current heatwave).   Mine is a '99 model, later ones may be different.
Signature

Keith Willcocks
(If you can't laugh at life, it ain't worth living!)

jacques rebourg - 17 Jul 2006 13:29 GMT
Hi Fitzy
> > Hello
> > I made the acquirement a few months ago of a 406
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> connectors, sometimes they get hot and cause bad connections,
> Fitzy

Thanks for the advice, but I'm sorry, I don't understand the report between
the fan and the no-start.
Explain me if you please
Thank you again.

JR
G.T - 18 Jul 2006 09:41 GMT
Salut Jacques,

Le démarreur tourne ou pas ?

a+,
G.T
205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel : www.205d.com
jacques rebourg - 18 Jul 2006 14:45 GMT
Hi GT

> Salut Jacques,
>
> Le démarreur tourne ou pas ?
Oui le demarreur tourne
Merci de t'interresser à mon Pb
Le forum français est très peu fonctionnel d'ou le site alt..
mais my english is bad.
Jacques

> a+,
> G.T
> 205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel : www.205d.com
G.T - 18 Jul 2006 15:38 GMT
Salut,

> > Le démarreur tourne ou pas ?
> Oui le demarreur tourne
OK.
Antidémarrage à clavier ou à transpondeur ?

> Merci de t'interresser à mon Pb
Je t'en prie.

> Le forum français est très peu fonctionnel d'ou le site alt..
> mais my english is bad.
Bah c'est pas grave, on arrive tjs à se débrouiller... Vrai que le forum
français, j'y passe pas svt non plus.

a+,
G.T
205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel : www.205d.com
 
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