106 gear boxes? reliable?

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Paul Cairns - 23 Aug 2006 19:26 GMT

Had transmission noise recently on a 106 , R reg. Garage says it's mostly a
wheel bearing (£60 quoted to change it) but also says it has a noisy diff
and gear box, they say 106es are renowned for them....does anyone know if
this is the case...and how's £60 for a wheel bearing? Quoted £350 plus
labour for new gear box.....up to £550 in all!!! Far too much, secondhand
one if anything! Are they ripping me off guys?

Cheers, appreciate your advice

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Chris - 23 Aug 2006 19:32 GMT

> Had transmission noise recently on a 106 , R reg. Garage says it's mostly a
> wheel bearing (£60 quoted to change it) but also says it has a noisy diff
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>
> Cheers, appreciate your advice

Sounds like it.wheel bearing 60 pounds is that for all 4? if i was you
try and look round for a second hand one.or get yours looked at by a
Gearbox place.(try e.bay for box??)
chris Addlestone Surrey

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Brian - 24 Aug 2006 00:42 GMT

> > Had transmission noise recently on a 106 , R reg. Garage says it's mostly a
> > wheel bearing (£60 quoted to change it) but also says it has a noisy diff
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> Gearbox place.(try e.bay for box??)
> chris Addlestone Surrey

Well, I had to replace the wheel bearing on a 307, £95 just for the bearing
from Peugeot. (OK, I know it's not the same, and it had ABS).
Had to get a VW Lupo gearbox overhauled recently too, £600. (That included
taking it out and replacing it afterwards, independent gearbox specialist).
What mileage has the car done? My 105 1.5D (N reg) has done 90k now, and has
always had a slight rattle from the box when first starting. Goes away when
you rev the engine. Never got any worse.
Risk is, if you get a S/H box, it might be as bad, or worse, than the one
you have.
Try changing the oil, and use a slightly heavier grade. Also try some of
that Slick, or Moly additive. That can help reduce noise.
Are you sure you actually have enough oil in the box?

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Keith Willcocks - 24 Aug 2006 10:26 GMT

>> > Had transmission noise recently on a 106 , R reg. Garage says it's
> mostly a
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> that Slick, or Moly additive. That can help reduce noise.
> Are you sure you actually have enough oil in the box?

Slightly off topic; in the bad old days of the second-hand car trade (bomb
site dealers etc) a popular trick to disguise a knackered gear box was to
add some saw dust to the oil. Not to be recommended but it did make cars
easier to shift by wide boys.

Likewise in some car auctions in the fifties and early sixties you were not
allowed to start the engines (the auctions were indoors) but could turn them
over with the starting handle to check compression etc. A guy I worked
with bought an MG Magnet saloon that way and after it was delivered by low
loader he couldn't get it to start. Eventually the local garage took the
head off and discovered a tennis ball in each cylinder. That was the
excellent compression he had felt on a totally knackered engine.

Hopefully things have changed now ;o)

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Wichita - 27 Aug 2006 10:08 GMT

> Slightly off topic; in the bad old days of the second-hand car trade (bomb
> site dealers etc) a popular trick to disguise a knackered gear box was to
> add some saw dust to the oil. Not to be recommended but it did make cars
> easier to shift by wide boys.

Later trick, I was told, was to add a finely chopped pair of women's
tights ...

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Dave George - 23 Aug 2006 22:53 GMT

> Had transmission noise recently on a 106 , R reg. Garage says it's mostly
> a wheel bearing (£60 quoted to change it) but also says it has a noisy
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>elsewhere has failed in some way, dont get me wrong, he drives it hard but
>by the same token so did i!

I would pay for a new unit or have yours reconditioned by somewhere that you
trust. In answer to your original question, in my opinion they are not that
reliable...

David

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