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Car Forum / Peugeot Cars / September 2006

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Diesel Additive - 307SW

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JohnJBurness - 25 Aug 2006 23:03 GMT
Own a '92 307SW 2.0l 110BHP Diesel. Approx 50,000 on clock - less than
2,000 since last service.

Just started getting a message flashing up stating:-
"Diesel Additive Minimum Level".

Does anyone know what this is & what I should do about it??
Tunku - 27 Aug 2006 08:31 GMT
JohnJBurness <JohnJBurnessAT@ieeDOT.org> wrote in news:44ef73a4$0$3184
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> Diesel Additive Minimum Level

Have a look here
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?f=23&h=&t=240199

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"end user"  v.  A command regrettably not implemented in most systems.

nigel - 28 Aug 2006 11:11 GMT
>JohnJBurness <JohnJBurnessAT@ieeDOT.org> wrote in news:44ef73a4$0$3184
>$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net:
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>Have a look here
>http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?f=23&h=&t=240199
I wouldn't do what some guy on that pistonhead site said and ignore
the warning. The filter will eventually block up and will affect the
running of the engine, just the same as if the cat collapsed and
blocked the gases from the engine. Then you will need a new
filter--and they are definitely NOT cheap!!! You need to refill the
additive tank with 5 litres of cerine fluid (@ £25 a litre) then get
the ECU reset to tell it that you have refilled the tank
JohnJBurness - 31 Aug 2006 22:39 GMT
> Own a '92 307SW 2.0l 110BHP Diesel. Approx 50,000 on clock - less than
> 2,000 since last service.
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>
> Does anyone know what this is & what I should do about it??

Just an update!

I've now had the local Peugeot Dealer fill up this Additive Tank & have
just taken out a 2nd Mortgage to pay for it!! :-(

The Additive costs nearly £25/litre (before VAT) & it requires 4 litres
of the stuff! Obviously, labour is on top of this (apparently the ECU
has to be reset at the same time).

Incidentally, I'm told that (if you don't have this additive re-filled)
the Particulate Filter will clog up & that is a VERY COSTLY exercise to
replace!!

Regards,
John
Tunku - 05 Sep 2006 22:49 GMT
JohnJBurness <JohnJBurnessAT@ieeDOT.org> wrote in news:44f756fb$0$3194
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> Just an update!
>
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> the Particulate Filter will clog up & that is a VERY COSTLY exercise to
> replace!!

Anyone else feel that diesel technology has taken a wrong turn somewhere?
It used to be all about cheap motoring :-0
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fred - 06 Sep 2006 19:12 GMT
I just had mine refilled, and the bastard STILL says "diesel additive
minimum level"
Is the level/flow sensor knackered, or it takes a while to prime ?

They didn't tell me any of this in the sales literature.
Bloody diesel that needs some special elixir of life to pass emissions
regulations.
What a load of crap.

> JohnJBurness <JohnJBurnessAT@ieeDOT.org> wrote in news:44f756fb$0$3194
> $ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net:
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> Anyone else feel that diesel technology has taken a wrong turn somewhere?
> It used to be all about cheap motoring :-0
Matthew Haigh - 06 Sep 2006 22:21 GMT
> I just had mine refilled, and the bastard STILL says "diesel additive
> minimum level"
> Is the level/flow sensor knackered, or it takes a while to prime ?

You need to get the relevant ECU reset. The car is too stupid to realise
you've refilled it. This isn't really just an excuse to make you have it
done at a Pug dealer rather than it being a DIY job. I'm sure there is a
very valid reason why they made the car so stupid. I just can't think of
it at the moment. But it must have been intentional. Maybe on the next
generation of cars you'll have to visit a Pug dealer to tell the car
you've filled it up with fuel...

> They didn't tell me any of this in the sales literature.

Nope.
Although to be fair, whilst the cost of refilling is hidden from you
until it is empty, it isn't that great a cost compared to the rest of
the motoring costs (servicing, fuel, etc.) you incur during the time it
takes to run out.

> Bloody diesel that needs some special elixir of life to pass emissions
> regulations.
> What a load of crap.

My thoughts too. I wouldn't have another modern Pug diesel. The old ones
were great - run forever, no hassle. But now they have all this
emissions rubbish and computer control, which is a bad idea when you
realise that the French have no idea how electronics work :-)

My 3.3L V6 Grand Voyager is more powerful, smoother, quieter and costs
far less to run (on LPG) than our diesel 807 did, and it is reliable too!

Interestingly, the most common (by far) search term that people find my
website by is "antipollution fault". The dealers must be making a small
fortune carrying out repairs on the extremely poor emissions control system.

Matt
http://807faults.co.uk
 
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