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1998 406 ignition switch change

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John Ricketts - 12 Sep 2006 08:46 GMT
Morning all. The aux contacts on my switch seem to have gone again, after
being swapped out less than 3 years ago. As I contemplate my annual
pilgrimage to the french alps, I am quite keen to get the heater blower
working again!

This time around, I am wondering what is involved in changing the switch
myself (not entire ignition lock). I suspect its all well tamper-proofed and
security locked....what is involved exactly? Or should I avoid it and pay
though the nose again?

cheers,
John
simon@thekelleys.org.uk - 12 Sep 2006 14:50 GMT
> Morning all. The aux contacts on my switch seem to have gone again, after
> being swapped out less than 3 years ago. As I contemplate my annual
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> cheers,
> John

I did this job a few months ago: it's really not too bad.

The lock is designed to be tamper-proof when in the locked position,
but dismantleable once the key is inserted and turmed to the "run"
position. The biggest problem I had was that the switch had got very
hot and melted the plastic body into a fused lump, so a certain amount
of persuasion was needed to turn the key to the correct position to
allow dismantling.

A Haynes book-of-lies did help.

Note that the switch comes with a new circlip, so you don't need to
carefully bend the old one back into shape. (I spotted that too
late.....) Also, you'll need a longish torx screwdriver to get the cowl
off. The electrics are easy, three colour-coded and keyed plugs.

A new switch cost 60 quid or so from a Peugeot dealer, and the job took
about an hour. It would take less time second time around, but I'm
hoping that I won't need to do it again.

Cheers,

Simon.
John Ricketts - 12 Sep 2006 15:34 GMT
Cheers!  From my experience, plan on it lasting 3 years or less!

>> Morning all. The aux contacts on my switch seem to have gone again, after
>> being swapped out less than 3 years ago. As I contemplate my annual
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>
> Simon.
Brian - 12 Sep 2006 17:46 GMT
> Cheers!  From my experience, plan on it lasting 3 years or less!

It could be worth finding the high current culprit and checking that it is
in fact working correctly. It is also possible to add a relay to that
circuit, thus reducing the load on the switch.
Mine went on the starter contact, as the 30 amps or so that the solenoid
took was routed through the switch.
I was able to clean the switch only, then add a relay and it worked for ever
from then on.
johntyers@btinternet.com - 12 Sep 2006 21:17 GMT
> This time around, I am wondering what is involved in changing the switch
> myself (not entire ignition lock). I suspect its all well tamper-proofed and
> security locked....what is involved exactly? Or should I avoid it and pay
> though the nose again?

2 30A c/o relays (£3ish). a bit of cable and 30mins to spare..... I'd
be tempted if it were my car but as it's not I couldn't possibly
recommend it.

J
John Ricketts - 15 Sep 2006 08:27 GMT
I'll need to swap out the switch in any case, and seeing as the motor is a
1998 with 130,000 miles on it I reckon another 3 years will see it out. It
is just another indication of Peugeot's diabolical record on design of
auto-electrics. Later models do indeed use a relay slaved off the aux
contact - far more sensible!

John Ricketts wrote:

> This time around, I am wondering what is involved in changing the switch
> myself (not entire ignition lock). I suspect its all well tamper-proofed
> and
> security locked....what is involved exactly? Or should I avoid it and pay
> though the nose again?

2 30A c/o relays (£3ish). a bit of cable and 30mins to spare..... I'd
be tempted if it were my car but as it's not I couldn't possibly
recommend it.

J
John Ricketts - 16 Sep 2006 16:24 GMT
Ouch! I just went to the Peugeot main agents. They claim they don't sell the
switch on its own, only the complete ignition lock assembly, which they say
they have to order from the key number. They want nearly 140 quid for supply
only! This sounds garbage to me....anyone know of a source of the switch
only?

Thanks,
John

> I'll need to swap out the switch in any case, and seeing as the motor is a
> 1998 with 130,000 miles on it I reckon another 3 years will see it out. It
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>
> J
simon@thekelleys.org.uk - 18 Sep 2006 16:30 GMT
> Ouch! I just went to the Peugeot main agents. They claim they don't sell the
> switch on its own, only the complete ignition lock assembly, which they say
> they have to order from the key number. They want nearly 140 quid for supply
> only! This sounds garbage to me....anyone know of a source of the switch
> only?

They may be correct: when I bought a replacement  switch, it took
reference to the VIN number to decide if I needed just a switch, or a
whole new lock. It looks like the design got changed at some point, and
you may be on the wrong side of the change. OTOH if they didn't check
the VIN, then they might be bullshitting. In that case returning,
quoting the VIN, might get results.

Cheers,

Simon.
Keith Willcocks - 18 Sep 2006 17:50 GMT
>> Ouch! I just went to the Peugeot main agents. They claim they don't sell
>> the
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> the VIN, then they might be bullshitting. In that case returning,
> quoting the VIN, might get results.

Being nosey, what year is yours.   I am interested in case I get the same
problem on my 1999 which is a hybrid of the MKI and MKII.
Signature

Keith Willcocks
(If you can't laugh at life, it ain't worth living!)

John Ricketts - 19 Sep 2006 07:13 GMT
Late 98, but its got some of the 99 features so seems to be a changeover
model.

>>> Ouch! I just went to the Peugeot main agents. They claim they don't sell
>>> the
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> Being nosey, what year is yours.   I am interested in case I get the same
> problem on my 1999 which is a hybrid of the MKI and MKII.
Keith Willcocks - 19 Sep 2006 09:17 GMT
Sounds the same as mine then.   MKl body styling with some MKll features
like an HDI engine and "invisible" passenger airbag.   Only problem was that
I had to buy two Haynes manuals to cover everything.

Thanks for that, it means mine can probably be done separately like yours.
Signature

Keith Willcocks
(If you can't laugh at life, it ain't worth living!)

> Late 98, but its got some of the 99 features so seems to be a changeover
> model.
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>> Being nosey, what year is yours.   I am interested in case I get the same
>> problem on my 1999 which is a hybrid of the MKI and MKII.
 
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