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Car Forum / Peugeot Cars / October 2006

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205 GRD Battery - tools?

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The Devils Advocaat - 20 Oct 2006 09:58 GMT
Hello everyone,

I've just got a lovely little 205 GRD, needs the battery charging
before I take her for her MOT. Does anyone know exactly what tools I
need to buy to take the battery out? I'm fairly sure the positive
terminal is 10mil but there's a clamp down the side of the battery,
what size is this? Do I need a bar or anything to get to it or will a
long enough spanner do?

I'm a bit of a spanner myself so please help? :)
daddyfreddy@gmail.com - 20 Oct 2006 13:41 GMT
> Hello everyone,
>
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>
> I'm a bit of a spanner myself so please help? :)

If it starts okay why not just take it for a good run and charge it up
that way. If it's still not holding a decent charge after a long run
then it probably needs changing.
The Devils Advocaat - 20 Oct 2006 14:07 GMT
I'd rather not do that, I would imagine it's bad for the alternator (as
it's designed to keep the battery topped up, not charge it from flat).
Plus it doesn't have an MOT so I can't really take it for a run. The
battery really is completely flat, jump-started it and left it running
for an hour or so (not driving it anywhere) and the lights wouldn't
even come on full brightness afterwards, so it does need a good charge.

I just want to know how to remove the battery, the terminals are
definitely 10mil but there's another bolt somewhere I need to undo, and
I can't find it, I can see one but that seems to hold the battery tray
itself to the chassis.

Help?

> > Hello everyone,
> >
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> that way. If it's still not holding a decent charge after a long run
> then it probably needs changing.
Fitzy. - 20 Oct 2006 16:01 GMT
Take the advice of daddy Freddy, he is totally correct ,,,
Jump start it and leave it running for 15-20 mins, thats all it needs,
who ever told you that its bad for the alternator is talking crap,
Fitzy

> I'd rather not do that, I would imagine it's bad for the alternator (as
> it's designed to keep the battery topped up, not charge it from flat).
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>> that way. If it's still not holding a decent charge after a long run
>> then it probably needs changing.
The Devils Advocaat - 20 Oct 2006 16:21 GMT
Maybe if I give it some revs for 20 minutes or so that would be better.
I'll try that tommorow. Like I say I left it idling for a bit and that
didn't charge it (but I wouldn't be suprised if the alternator doesn't
charge very well at idle). She was sitting for about 4 months without
ever being started before I got her.

> Take the advice of daddy Freddy, he is totally correct ,,,
> Jump start it and leave it running for 15-20 mins, thats all it needs,
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> >> that way. If it's still not holding a decent charge after a long run
> >> then it probably needs changing.
Chris - 20 Oct 2006 16:32 GMT
> Maybe if I give it some revs for 20 minutes or so that would be better.
> I'll try that tommorow. Like I say I left it idling for a bit and that
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>>>> that way. If it's still not holding a decent charge after a long run
>>>> then it probably needs changing.

just leave it ticking over for a short time should do the job.and who
told you its bad for the alternator is talking crap, so just let it tick
over for 15-20-30 mins. then take it for its M.O.T.
Fitzy. - 20 Oct 2006 19:03 GMT
If you have previously left it idling and the battery did not maintain the
charge, then the battery must be suspect, time to
change the battery,
you said you don't think the alt, is charging very well on idle,
Well as long as the battery warning light is OUT,,,, then its charging,
Fitzy

>> Maybe if I give it some revs for 20 minutes or so that would be better.
>> I'll try that tommorow. Like I say I left it idling for a bit and that
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> you its bad for the alternator is talking crap, so just let it tick over
> for 15-20-30 mins. then take it for its M.O.T.
Chris - 20 Oct 2006 22:18 GMT
> If you have previously left it idling and the battery did not maintain the
> charge, then the battery must be suspect, time to
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>> you its bad for the alternator is talking crap, so just let it tick over
>> for 15-20-30 mins. then take it for its M.O.T.

Give it a good run..that will sort it out.
Chris - 20 Oct 2006 22:18 GMT
> If you have previously left it idling and the battery did not maintain the
> charge, then the battery must be suspect, time to
[quoted text clipped - 44 lines]
>> you its bad for the alternator is talking crap, so just let it tick over
>> for 15-20-30 mins. then take it for its M.O.T.

Give it a good run..that will sort it out.
The Devils Advocaat - 22 Oct 2006 10:50 GMT
Right - the battery is definitely cooked - started it today and left it
running for half an hour whilst revving it up every now and then and
there are only 6 volts in the battery after trying to start it (it just
clicked, didn't even turn over). So I still need to know what tools are
required to get the thing out, to change it...

> > If you have previously left it idling and the battery did not maintain the
> > charge, then the battery must be suspect, time to
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> >
> Give it a good run..that will sort it out.
Chris - 22 Oct 2006 14:56 GMT
> Right - the battery is definitely cooked - started it today and left it
> running for half an hour whilst revving it up every now and then and
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>>>
>> Give it a good run..that will sort it out.

Probly 10mm to undo the leads and 13 mm to release it from the tray.
chris Addlestone
Gary G Jones - 22 Oct 2006 16:03 GMT
As Chris said, the 13mm will be for a bolt that's down the side of the
battery holding it to its tray, you may well not even need to remove the
bracket all the way, sometimes if you loosen it enough you can ease the
battery to one side and lift it out.
Depending on access to this bolt a 13mm sock on an extension bar may be of
help.
Gary

> Probly 10mm to undo the leads and 13 mm to release it from the tray.
> chris Addlestone
Chris - 22 Oct 2006 19:01 GMT
> Right - the battery is definitely cooked - started it today and left it
> running for half an hour whilst revving it up every now and then and
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>>>
>> Give it a good run..that will sort it out.

So have you replaced it yet? or is it going to be done in the week ?
chris ADDLESTONE SURREY
The Devils Advocaat - 26 Oct 2006 21:54 GMT
replaced it, it's fine now :) the bolt holding the bracket was a right
bastard to get off, managed it eventually though. cheers for your help
people.

> > Right - the battery is definitely cooked - started it today and left it
> > running for half an hour whilst revving it up every now and then and
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> So have you replaced it yet? or is it going to be done in the week ?
> chris ADDLESTONE SURREY
Gary G Jones - 26 Oct 2006 22:50 GMT
glad to hear you got it sorted out
Gary

> replaced it, it's fine now :) the bolt holding the bracket was a right
> bastard to get off, managed it eventually though. cheers for your help
> people.

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