The radiator cooling fans have stopped working on my 97 406 petrol. I've
checked fuses and every connection I can find, but all ok. Any suggestions?
I fed up of cooking myself with the heater on full blast whilst stuck in
traffic!
Thanks
Chris
malc - 20 Nov 2006 21:32 GMT
> The radiator cooling fans have stopped working on my 97 406 petrol. I've
> checked fuses and every connection I can find, but all ok. Any
> suggestions? I fed up of cooking myself with the heater on full blast
> whilst stuck in traffic!
Firstly is 12V reaching the fans? If so is the ground connection ok. Can you
measure resistance across the motor. I don't know what the wattage of the
motors are but you should see a lowish resistance but not a dead short
obviously. Do the fans run if you put 12 V on them from a separate feed?

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Martin Whybrow - 20 Nov 2006 22:50 GMT
> > The radiator cooling fans have stopped working on my 97 406 petrol. I've
> > checked fuses and every connection I can find, but all ok. Any
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> motors are but you should see a lowish resistance but not a dead short
> obviously. Do the fans run if you put 12 V on them from a separate feed?
Not sure about the earlier models, but the facelift models ('99 on) have a
box in front of the radiator containing several relays which control the
fan; the box catches a lot of water and it can get inside the box and
corrode the relays. You need to take off the front grill to access it.
Martin

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malc - 21 Nov 2006 17:07 GMT
> Not sure about the earlier models, but the facelift models ('99 on)
> have a box in front of the radiator containing several relays which
> control the fan; the box catches a lot of water and it can get inside
> the box and corrode the relays. You need to take off the front grill
> to access it.
That's worth knowing thanks

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Chris - 23 Nov 2006 22:48 GMT
Thanks to everyone for your suggestions. I've tried everything I can, but
failed. There is no 12 volts reaching the fans. With a battery connected
directly to them they run ok.
I can't find a thermostatic switch despite looking, although as you say
there must be one somewhere. A mechanic who has seen a similar problem told
me he had to have the ECU replaced - not an option I'd consider on a car
this old. Think I'll hard wire the fans to a BIG switch on the dash!
Cheers
Chris
Eccles - 20 Nov 2006 22:51 GMT
> The radiator cooling fans have stopped working on my 97 406 petrol. I've
> checked fuses and every connection I can find, but all ok. Any
> suggestions? I fed up of cooking myself with the heater on full blast
> whilst stuck in traffic!
Have you checked the thermostatic switch? I don't know specifically about
the 406, but it's usually screwed into the side of the radiator.
Withdraw the connector from the switch and bridge the contacts. Do the fans
now work?
Peter
MICHAEL ROCHE - 01 Dec 2006 21:32 GMT
Chris
I have a 1998 406 1.9TD with air con and had the same problem. This uses a
bitrol system to control the 2 fans. The system is switched on by the brown
thermostat of the three on the engine. This then switches a changeover
relay and 2 other relays to either give slow speed both fans in series or
fast both fans in parallel. Is this similar to your system, if so I can give
you the information to fault it.
Mike
> The radiator cooling fans have stopped working on my 97 406 petrol. I've
> checked fuses and every connection I can find, but all ok. Any suggestions?
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> Thanks
> Chris
Q-Ball - 12 Dec 2006 21:25 GMT
>Chris
>I have a 1998 406 1.9TD with air con and had the same problem. This
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>you the information to fault it.
>Mike
Mike,
this is exactly what I am experiencing with my 1998 406 2.0. Cn you
provide me with the information I will require to fault it please.
Q-Ball

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Ken - 12 Dec 2006 23:51 GMT
> The radiator cooling fans have stopped working on my 97 406 petrol. I've
> checked fuses and every connection I can find, but all ok. Any suggestions?
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> Thanks
> Chris
You have had a better response from the group than I did. If you look
at my recent post:
406SV - expensive 120k service
you will see I was puzzled why they replaced both fan motors (and,
according to the invoice, did not replace and sensors or relays). Both
motors seem to work OK. The vehicle had done 120k and I was not overly
concerned provided they fixed the problem.
And they did. There has been no sign of overheating since.
It may be that these motors, when aged, bind up during operation - that
is the only possibility I can think of for the fix having worked
(unless they replaced sensors/relays and forgot to charge - not likely!)
MICHAEL ROCHE - 13 Dec 2006 20:01 GMT
Chris
As both fan motors work either in series for slow speed or parallel for fast
speed. I assume their logic is replace both as if one has gone the other
will go shortly after as it is always operating when the other one is.
Having replaced one I understand this logic, as with my vehicle you need to
remove the radiator , intercooler and air con radiator to get at the fan
bolts.
Michael
> > The radiator cooling fans have stopped working on my 97 406 petrol. I've
> > checked fuses and every connection I can find, but all ok. Any suggestions?
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> is the only possibility I can think of for the fix having worked
> (unless they replaced sensors/relays and forgot to charge - not likely!)