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Car Forum / Peugeot Cars / December 2006106 diesel fuel filter problem
106 1.5 diesel N reg. The fuel filter looked like it was leaking so I changed it. I also notice a bit of a leak from above the filter so had a closer look at that. There's a plastic doofus held in place with a star style washer/circlip which turns out to be some sort of valve mounted within the fuel filter/thermostat housing. The flat O ring at the top is cracking and allows fuel to seep out and air to get in and so the car won't run. Conventional O rings won't fit as the section is wrong and a 20 mm one looks too large (a slightly oversize ring just won't compress enough to fit). My father in law had a similar problem and tells me Peugeot won't sell the valve for less than £120 which is plainly stupid money for something no bigger than your average cigarette. He reckons to squirt in silicone sealant and to block up any holes in the valve end with it, as he says it's an over pressure valve. HBOL makes no mention of this valve naturally. I'm reluctant to try sealant in case it makes its way into the injectors and I have a feeling that one from a scrappie won't be in much better condition. Any other answers?  SignatureMalc "AFB Mr Tracey." "Underbirths are og" Les Barker - Irrational Neutscene > 106 1.5 diesel N reg. The fuel filter looked like it was leaking so I > changed it. I also notice a bit of a leak from above the filter so had a [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > feeling that one from a scrappie won't be in much better condition. Any > other answers? are you in the u.k? if give watson deisel a ring they will sell you the parts for your car.tel number 02088793584-02088793861 i have dealt with company and they have all ways been very very helpful. > Conventional O rings won't fit as the section is wrong and a 20 mm one > looks too large (a slightly oversize ring just won't compress enough to > fit). Trim it? > I have a feeling that one from a scrappie won't be in much better > condition. Don't see why. It's not a problem I've ever heard about on the TUD5 engine so it can't be that common a fault, you would think, so I would think a scrappie is worth a try. Fair range of choice, usually - any Metro, AX, 106 or Saxo fitted with the TUD5 engine. >> Conventional O rings won't fit as the section is wrong and a 20 mm >> one looks too large (a slightly oversize ring just won't compress >> enough to fit). > > Trim it? Ok if you can get a reasonably even cut. I'm not too good with knives after my accident in May. >> I have a feeling that one from a scrappie won't be in much better >> condition. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > would think a scrappie is worth a try. Fair range of choice, usually > - any Metro, AX, 106 or Saxo fitted with the TUD5 engine. I might give it a go. I'll try (send the wife out to try) Pug first and another handy garage first. It's a right bastard to get out though. SignatureMalc "AFB Mr Tracey." "Underbirths are og" Les Barker - Irrational Neutscene >> Conventional O rings won't fit as the section is wrong and a 20 mm one >> looks too large (a slightly oversize ring just won't compress enough to >> fit). > > Trim it? Or buy the right size O ring. >> I have a feeling that one from a scrappie won't be in much better >> condition. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > 106 > or Saxo fitted with the TUD5 engine. >>> Conventional O rings won't fit as the section is wrong and a 20 mm >>> one looks too large (a slightly oversize ring just won't compress [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Or buy the right size O ring. Don't think I haven't tried. It's a square section one and appears to be in the order of rarety of hen's teeth. SignatureMalc "AFB Mr Tracey." "Underbirths are og" Les Barker - Irrational Neutscene >>>> Conventional O rings won't fit as the section is wrong and a 20 mm >>>> one looks too large (a slightly oversize ring just won't compress [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Don't think I haven't tried. It's a square section one and appears to > be in the order of rarety of hen's teeth. Try http://www.blue-diamond.co.uk - they say they have over 6000 sizes in stock... I haven't dealt with them, but I've found lots of smallish companies are very happy to help in your situation - they might charge a couple of quid or might just send you one... > 106 1.5 diesel N reg. The fuel filter looked like it was leaking so I > changed it. I also notice a bit of a leak from above the filter so had a [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > valve for less than £120 which is plainly stupid money for something no > bigger than your average cigarette. How much do Peugeot reckon it costs? > He reckons to squirt in silicone sealant > and to block up any holes in the valve end with it, as he says it's an [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > feeling that one from a scrappie won't be in much better condition. Any > other answers? >> 106 1.5 diesel N reg. The fuel filter looked like it was leaking so I >> changed it. I also notice a bit of a leak from above the filter so [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > How much do Peugeot reckon it costs? Peugeot want to sell me the entire thermostat housing for £210. My local Cit specialist gave my wife an O ring which doesn't fit. I've sanded it down and I hope tomorrow when it's not raining to give it a go. Otherwise I feel a Blue Hylomar moment coming on. SignatureMalc "AFB Mr Tracey." "Underbirths are og" Les Barker - Irrational Neutscene >>> 106 1.5 diesel N reg. The fuel filter looked like it was leaking so I >>> changed it. I also notice a bit of a leak from above the filter so [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > I hope tomorrow when it's not raining to give it a go. Otherwise I feel a > Blue Hylomar moment coming on. TRy your local bearing stockists, they can normally do O rings in less than 1mm step sizes. Otherwise buy the next size up, cut it at 45deg, reduce to the size you need & superglue the ends together (that's how we made ours on service calls). > >>> 106 1.5 diesel N reg. The fuel filter looked like it was leaking so I > >>> changed it. I also notice a bit of a leak from above the filter so [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > reduce to the size you need & superglue the ends together (that's how we > made ours on service calls). As you have indicated it is not an O ring but a square section seal. Try and find a Classic car specialist nearby or an old fashioned motor factors and look for an oil filter element that has a similar sized square seal. Just looked at the size you quoted 20mm - inside or outside dia - this is quite small perhaps a centre seal on a CAV fuel filter. What is your location? PhilC > As you have indicated it is not an O ring but a square section seal. Try and > find a Classic car specialist nearby or an old fashioned motor factors and > look for an oil filter element that has a similar sized square seal. Just > looked at the size you quoted 20mm - inside or outside dia - this is quite > small perhaps a centre seal on a CAV fuel filter. What is your location? Gloucester. Not having verniers I'm not exactly sure of the size. It's a tad less than 20mm probably 19mm outside diameter. SignatureMalc >> As you have indicated it is not an O ring but a square section seal. >> Try and find a Classic car specialist nearby or an old fashioned [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Gloucester. Not having verniers I'm not exactly sure of the size. It's > a tad less than 20mm probably 19mm outside diameter. You could do worse than pop in here... BEARINGS & MOTORS Harrier 2, Meteor Business Park, Cheltenham Road East, Gloucestershire, GL2 9QL. Tel: +44 (0)1452 855200 Fax: +44 (0)1452 855977 They're part of this lot: <http://www.hayley-group.co.uk/seals.html> >>> As you have indicated it is not an O ring but a square section seal. >>> Try and find a Classic car specialist nearby or an old fashioned [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > They're part of this lot: <http://www.hayley-group.co.uk/seals.html> Coo cheers. They're about 1/4 mile from me. I'll send the Mrs. SignatureMalc "AFB Mr Tracey." "Underbirths are og" Les Barker - Irrational Neutscene >>> Gloucester. Not having verniers I'm not exactly sure of the size. >>> It's a tad less than 20mm probably 19mm outside diameter. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Coo cheers. They're about 1/4 mile from me. I'll send the Mrs. Good luck. I must be about 3 miles from you then. Abbeydale. > I must be about 3 miles from you then. Abbeydale. Churchdown opposite Town Cars SignatureMalc "AFB Mr Tracey." "Underbirths are og" Les Barker - Irrational Neutscene > You could do worse than pop in here... > BEARINGS & MOTORS [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > They're part of this lot: <http://www.hayley-group.co.uk/seals.html> Jolly helpful they were too. Thanks. They took the old O ring measured it with calipers and gave, gratis, my wife two possibilities and told her somewhere else on Innsworth Trading Estate who might also be able to help and then if they couldn't, told her to come back and they would order in some bits to fix it. SignatureMalc >> You could do worse than pop in here... >> BEARINGS & MOTORS [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > to help and then if they couldn't, told her to come back and they > would order in some bits to fix it. It works. They gave her an O ring which was a tad thinner and I got her to fit it and pressurise the system with the priming bulb whilst I was at work. No leaks, so when I got home all I had to do was to fit the inner O ring and the retaining washer and bleed the system 20 seconds of cranking and it started with no misfires. Thanks chaps. SignatureMalc "AFB Mr Tracey." "Underbirths are og" Les Barker - Irrational Neutscene >>> You could do worse than pop in here... >>> BEARINGS & MOTORS [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Thanks chaps. Nice one. The message <1164729375.184495.269910@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> from "Malc" <malcolm.white@ubht.swest.nhs.uk> contains these words: > Gloucester. Not having verniers I'm not exactly sure of the size. It's > a tad less than 20mm probably 19mm outside diameter. Next time Lidl or Aldi have 'em, grab a set of their fingery verniers - they're about £8 and actually not bad at all. SignatureSkipweasel Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. |
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