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Car Forum / Peugeot Cars / December 2006

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Brainfire - 04 Dec 2006 20:19 GMT
Without debating the legality of it, is it possible to run an HDI on
red diesel? I've heard conflicting views on this, and would like the
opinions of some in here if possible. I've heard, 'Yes, it's fine,' and
'No, don't do it;' the reason given being that it doesn't have the same
lubricating properties as standard diesel and isn't as clean and HDI's
don't like that - apparently it's fine with the older non-hdi engines
though?

Ta
Gary G Jones - 04 Dec 2006 20:37 GMT
> Without debating the legality of it, is it possible to run an HDI on
> red diesel? I've heard conflicting views on this, and would like the
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>
> Ta

Yes you can,  red diesel is the same as garage forecourt diesel apart from
the colour of the dye added to it.

GGJ
Gary G Jones - 04 Dec 2006 20:41 GMT
> Without debating the legality of it, is it possible to run an HDI on
> red diesel? I've heard conflicting views on this, and would like the
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>
> Ta

Having just re-read your mail , it sounds to me as if you are getting a
little mixed up with running your diesel on the home made chip fat
conversion stuff, this I know is not a good idea for the more modern hdi
engines.
ggj
Brainfire - 05 Dec 2006 07:05 GMT
No, I wasn't even thinking of the chip fat mixture at all - not being
mechanically minded, I just didn't know who to believe, that's all - I
did think it a bit strange that it wouldn't have the same lubricating
properties as standard diesel considering the price of some of the
machinery that it goes into, and could hardly see the engine
manufacturers modifying every diesel engine that might be run on red
diesel to suit an inferior fuel.

I think the cleanliness issue the guy was refering to was that it
normally comes in drums having been pumped out of a tank, therefore
getting some dirt or grit in it would be quite easy.

Thanks guys.

> > Without debating the legality of it, is it possible to run an HDI on
> > red diesel? I've heard conflicting views on this, and would like the
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> engines.
> ggj
Brainfire - 05 Dec 2006 19:03 GMT
Hmmm, well this came from another forum.... no wonder I'm confused!

I once had a HDI diesel van in with a melted battery--The fault--Red
diesel in the fuel tank.
4 HDI injectors, all wired to the ECU. The injectors cannot handle the
RED Diesel, they over heat and short out, The current back feeds
through the wiring, trashes the ECU, BSI and alternator. The poor old
battery cannot handle it all and melts.

> No, I wasn't even thinking of the chip fat mixture at all - not being
> mechanically minded, I just didn't know who to believe, that's all - I
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> > engines.
> > ggj
Gary G Jones - 05 Dec 2006 19:50 GMT
> Hmmm, well this came from another forum.... no wonder I'm confused!
>
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> through the wiring, trashes the ECU, BSI and alternator. The poor old
> battery cannot handle it all and melts.

Sounds like a rumour spread by the inland revenue to me.
Put it this way, I have a hdi van and if someone gave me an endless supply
of red diesel and a guarantee that VOSA sitting on the A10 in Norfolk would
not pull me over to check the colour of my diesel I would more than happily
put it in my van.  :o)

Gary
Marc Amsterdam - 05 Dec 2006 20:50 GMT
>Hmmm, well this came from another forum.... no wonder I'm confused!
>
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>through the wiring, trashes the ECU, BSI and alternator. The poor old
>battery cannot handle it all and melts.

complete and utter nonsense. the viscosity of red and normal diesel is
the same.
Marc Amsterdam - 05 Dec 2006 20:18 GMT
>No, I wasn't even thinking of the chip fat mixture at all - not being
>mechanically minded, I just didn't know who to believe, that's all - I
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>normally comes in drums having been pumped out of a tank, therefore
>getting some dirt or grit in it would be quite easy.

usually the diesel at your station contains less sulfer and is
therefore quit a lot cleaner to burn
however you HDi wil run fine on red diesel  as it wil on household
fuel UNTIL you chip tune it.
the HDi engines are tuned to run just fine on lower quality fuels *(
households fuels usually are )  if you decide to take lets say a 2.0
HDI to on and abou 200 BHP ( easy enough) then your fuel should be of
a more consitant quality to maintain some sort of reliability.
tune a 110 BHP to lets say 150 BHP  then you are fine running it on
european commercial availiable fuel.

>Thanks guys.
>
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>> engines.
>> ggj
 
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