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Car Forum / Peugeot Cars / September 2007307SW 136 won['t start after going through big puddle ?
My fathers 307SW 136 went through a big puddle on the side of the road last night and the engine stopped. He tried to restart it but there is just a clonk from under the car and it doesn't seem to turn the engine. This morning he tried again and the same thing. The lights come on but when he attempted to turn the engine over it looks like they go dim, as if the battery has gone flat. Any idea's ? I won't have though it has sucked up water as I think its like my 110 307 and has the airfilter and such like high up in the engine bay. Steve The air filter may be high up but often on a Peugeot the actual air intake pipe is at the bottom of the radiator a no no for going through floods. Mike > My fathers 307SW 136 went through a big puddle on the side of the road > last night and the engine stopped. He tried to restart it but there is [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Steve On 21 Jul, 21:00, "Michael Roche" <michael.roc...@btinternet.com> wrote: > The air filter may be high up but often on a Peugeot the actual air intake > pipe is at the bottom of the radiator a no no for going through floods. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > > Steve Yes the RAC picked him up and said the same. The guy said he could hear water in some of the air pipes when he squeezed the. He also said that the car doesn't turn over because water is probably locked in one of the cylinders ! The garage will need to remove the injectors to release the water and check for damage. Any idea's what the likely damage is going to be. RAC guy said they are usually ok once the water is drained out of them. Not sure what it does to the particulate filter though ! Steve > On 21 Jul, 21:00, "Michael Roche" <michael.roc...@btinternet.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > Steve Conrod damage is quite likely when water gets in the cylinders. Hope for the best! >> On 21 Jul, 21:00, "Michael Roche" <michael.roc...@btinternet.com> >> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> > > I won't have though it has sucked up water as I think its like my 110 >> > > 307 and has the airfilter and such like high up in the engine bay. >> > The air filter may be high up but often on a Peugeot the actual air intake >> > pipe is at the bottom of the radiator a no no for going through floods. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Conrod damage is quite likely when water gets in the cylinders. Hope >for the best! Is this a diesel? They suffer more with water in the cylinders because there is less free space in the cylinder due to higher compression. Water won't compress so the con rod has to bend. > daddyfre...@gmail.com wrote: > >> On 21 Jul, 21:00, "Michael Roche" <michael.roc...@btinternet.com> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > there is less free space in the cylinder due to higher compression. > Water won't compress so the con rod has to bend. Yes but he was only going walking pace so I'd expect that the conrods will be ok. He phoned the insurance today just to check if they would pay if its expensive. They said that over the last few weeks they have had hundreds of people with the same problem. All French and German cars seem to have the problem. All caused by the air pipe being so low and the airfilter being on the passenger side of the car and hence sucking up the deeper bit of a puddle. Obviously abroad the filter would be sucking up air from the middle part of the road ! Is it possible to move the air intake pipe higher up ?had a look at my 405 and the air intake is up high by the pass headlight, also its got hole in the pipe so if any water went up the pipe it would be able to run out the holes.(well lets hope it never happens to any of us as we all learn by are misstakes) > Is it possible to move the air intake pipe higher up ?had a look at my > 405 and the air intake is up high by the pass headlight, also its got > hole in the pipe so if any water went up the pipe it would be able to > run out the holes.(well lets hope it never happens to any of us as we > all learn by are misstakes) Well he is going to ask the garage if there is a mod and if there isn't he is going to chop the pipe off and make his own. send it up and over the roof.just like the new landrovers.and do a patten on it and sale it. > send it up and over the roof.just like the new landrovers.and do a > patten on it and sale it. Even better, turn it into a snorkel.  SignatureKeith Willcocks (If you can't laugh at life, it ain't worth living!) Or put it in a rubber suite and lets go diving in it hahahahaha > Or put it in a rubber suite and lets go diving in it hahahahaha I've heard about these rubber fetishes................ Have you where? i dont get to hear much when i am working hard lol > daddyfre...@gmail.com wrote: > >> On 21 Jul, 21:00, "Michael Roche" <michael.roc...@btinternet.com> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > there is less free space in the cylinder due to higher compression. > Water won't compress so the con rod has to bend. Well the garage haven't took the head off yet but they have mentioned that they think the engine is wreaked which I think is crazy as he was only going walking pace. ?5000 for a new engine !!!!!! They have said that the sudden rush of water into the engine had probably warped the block and not done the pistons any good. This sounds crazy to me, things like land rover which I've driven into deep water don't complain about cold water hitting the block. I've told him to ask for a full break down of what they think is wrong because it sounds like they are taking the easy option to me. £5000 for a new engine . what is it gold ?never heard of a warped block maybe head, but cant see that if it was only doing about 2mph.i think i would get some one else to take a look then find out price for diff things that might need to be replaced. >> daddyfre...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> On 21 Jul, 21:00, "Michael Roche" <michael.roc...@btinternet.com> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> >> > > My fathers 307SW 136 went through a big puddle on the side of the road >> >> > > last night and the engine stopped. >> >> Any idea's what the likely damage is going to be. >> >> >Conrod damage is quite likely when water gets in the cylinders. Hope >> >for the best! >Well the garage haven't took the head off yet but they have mentioned >that they think the engine is wreaked which I think is crazy as he was [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >sounds crazy to me, things like land rover which I've driven into deep >water don't complain about cold water hitting the block. The car may only have been going walking pace but the engine will still have been doing at least 1000 rpm and suddenly chucking in water inside a cylinder will have bent it badly. It's not the sudden cooling that has warped the block but the coming to a dead stop with incompressible water in a cylinder. > >> daddyfre...@gmail.com wrote: > >> >> On 21 Jul, 21:00, "Michael Roche" <michael.roc...@btinternet.com> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > that has warped the block but the coming to a dead stop with > incompressible water in a cylinder. The garage said they had replaced 5 engines last week with the same problem. Strikes me its a damn design fault to stick the air intake that low. I was having a look at mine and its just at the base of the bumper, how cr*p is that ! My old rovers could go though the local ford above the bottom of the door with no problem at all. >My fathers 307SW 136 went through a big puddle on the side of the road >last night and the engine stopped. He tried to restart it but there is [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >Steve The simple answer is don`t try to suck up lake Windermere next time you go for a drive ! You may have learned the hard way this time and i feel sorry for you but most manufacturers are putting the air intakes low down now. I am a Ford Technician an we get this every now and then - one of the reasons the air intake is low down is so that it is at the furthest point from the occupants in the car to reduce induction noise and increase driver comfort + the engine gets a nice cool supply of air ! >>My fathers 307SW 136 went through a big puddle on the side of the road >>last night and the engine stopped. He tried to restart it but there is [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > point from the occupants in the car to reduce induction noise and > increase driver comfort + the engine gets a nice cool supply of air ! ----- and additional water.cooling ;o) SignatureKeith Willcocks (If you can't laugh at life, it ain't worth living!) On 13 Aug, 08:21, "Keith Willcocks" <buccan...@invalidaddress.inv> wrote: > >>My fathers 307SW 136 went through a big puddle on the side of the road > >>last night and the engine stopped. He tried to restart it but there is [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Keith Willcocks > (If you can't laugh at life, it ain't worth living!) Fixed free of charge ;) > On 13 Aug, 08:21, "Keith Willcocks" <buccan...@invalidaddress.inv> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > Fixed free of charge ;) That was unexpected. How did you pull it off (and what was done)? SignatureKeith Willcocks (If you can't laugh at life, it ain't worth living!) On 23 Aug, 23:27, "Keith Willcocks" <buccan...@invalidaddress.inv> wrote: > > On 13 Aug, 08:21, "Keith Willcocks" <buccan...@invalidaddress.inv> > > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > Keith Willcocks > (If you can't laugh at life, it ain't worth living!) Its going in this week and the clutch and flywheel is being replace. I contacted the customer care dept. Told them of the problem and the history on the car. Said I think they should pay and they phoned me up a few days later and agreed ! > On 23 Aug, 23:27, "Keith Willcocks" <buccan...@invalidaddress.inv> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > history on the car. Said I think they should pay and they phoned me up > a few days later and agreed ! Sorry responded to wrong thread ! I've had a problem with the flywheel on my car. As for the old mans, it turned out he had some extra insurance cover that covered the damage with effecting no claims or inflicting any excess. By the way the peugeot garage also agreed that the low air inlet was a major problem and has caused them a lot of work this year. >> On 23 Aug, 23:27, "Keith Willcocks" <buccan...@invalidaddress.inv> >> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 70 lines] > By the way the peugeot garage also agreed that the low air inlet was a > major problem and has caused them a lot of work this year. Something to be aware of when buying a new car. Thanks for highlighting it. |
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