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Car Forum / Peugeot Cars / October 2007

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Xenon headlamps - UK

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No Spam - 06 Oct 2007 12:36 GMT
Hi,

My 2006  Peugeot Executive has xenon dipped headlights.

The handbook says on page 144 that the bulbs are D2S-35 W Xenon and
that they must be replaced by a Peugeot dealer.

The local Peugeot Service Desk tells me that these bulbs are very
expensive to replace - about £100 was mentioned.

However in my local Halfords the assistant told me that the xenon
bulbs they sell at the current special offer price of 2 for £15 would
be a suitable alternative. He referred to the fact that the manual
quoted H1-55 W was the halogen bulb and the H1 Halfords' xenon bulb
was the same fitting.

My questions are:

What's so difficult about changing these bulbs that the manual doesn't
describe how to do it?

Are the Halfords' H1 bulbs really compatible.

Thanks

David
ebme.technician@googlemail.com - 06 Oct 2007 14:39 GMT
> Hi,
>
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>
> David

Basically the guy in Halfords is a muppet. You sound to have proper
xenon headlights (HID - high intensity discharge), what the assistant
is trying to sell you is halogen upgrade bulbs that are filled with
xenon gas.

I assume you bulb looks like this:
http://www.hids4u.co.uk/product_details.asp?id=22
or
http://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/home.php?cat=632

And this is what the assistant is try to sell you:
http://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/home.php?cat=253

This is taken from the autobulbs website FAQ:
9) Are xenon replacement bulbs the same as the ones you see in some
new expensive cars with blue lights?
No. These are known as HID systems. High Intensity Discharge's light
output is over 3 to 4 times greater than a halogen bulb, with less
heat and power consumption. HID requires an electronic control gear
and starter to momentarily apply high voltage to a capsule of inert
gases (including xenon) creating an intense arc of white light. HID
emits brilliant white light. A 35W HID produces a light closer to
natural sunlight compared to a 55w halogen. An HID system will
typically cost between £200 - £300. We do also have these available
here.

I've stopped using halfords as it run by kids who know nothing about
cars. I haven't got HID system so can't tell you what the bulbs are
like to fit but I'm sure one of the above suppliers would be able to
help.
djimbo - 06 Oct 2007 15:19 GMT
On 6 Oct, 12:36, No Spam <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:

>Basically the guy in Halfords is a muppet.

Aww come on, I used to like the muppets!
My own experience of Halfords suggests there's nothing remotely likable
about their time wasting, annoying antics.
If they were the only place in the world to sell  headlight bulbs I'd invest
in a vacuum pump, glass blowing gear and some tungsten wire.

Djimbo.

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No Spam - 06 Oct 2007 17:01 GMT
>> Hi,
>>
>> My 2006  Peugeot Executive has xenon dipped headlights.
[snip]

>> My questions are:
>>
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>And this is what the assistant is try to sell you:
>http://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/home.php?cat=253

[snip]
>help.

Thanks for the reply.

You have confirmed my suspicions. Yes mine are DS2-35.
I've had a search around the web this afternoon & can see matching
replacement bulbs on several web sites at abt £70 including the 2nd
web site you quote. I've asked them about the replacement aspect
tricky4000 - 07 Oct 2007 23:03 GMT
> On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 13:39:50 -0000, ebme.technic...@googlemail.com
> wrote:
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>
> - Show quoted text -

Contact Ian at www.hids4u.co.uk
He's very helpful, his prices are cheap, his products are brilliant
and if you have a problem, he will help you out...and he knows what
he's talking about also!  Tell him you spoke to Daniel from Melbourne
Australia
Good luck.
D
David Hearn - 06 Oct 2007 16:08 GMT
> Hi,
>
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> The local Peugeot Service Desk tells me that these bulbs are very
> expensive to replace - about £100 was mentioned.

Sounds about right for a dealer price:

http://www.consumabulbs.com/files/bdet.php?id=142&ls=gd2s
http://www.consumabulbs.com/files/bdet.php?id=445&ls=related

Both are D2S-35W Xenon lamps for HID systems - £69 for an unbranded lamp
(£120 a pair), or £85 for a Philips lamp (£149 a pair).

D
 
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