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Richard - 11 Oct 2007 20:34 GMT
Can anyone who has a 2003 (ish) 90hp 2.0 hdi have a look on their log book
and see what the CO2 emission is please. Mine says 151 but wifes picasso
with the same engine is less so she is paying less tax!

Thanks
Richard
%%stu%% - 11 Oct 2007 21:21 GMT
> Can anyone who has a 2003 (ish) 90hp 2.0 hdi have a look on their log book
> and see what the CO2 emission is please. Mine says 151 but wifes picasso
> with the same engine is less so she is paying less tax!
>
> Thanks
> Richard

just bought a hdi 90 406 today  it says 151 gm/km.  tax £140/year

i bought a picasso 1.8 in 2001 and it was less tax than my wife's then 306
1.8.

previously had a 406  se 110 which was £110 tax per year

better than my other car now, 407 coupe 2.7 hdi. tax £300 /year or wifes now
307cc  2.0 petrol  £300/year
Gary G Jones - 12 Oct 2007 12:56 GMT
Mines a 110bhp Hdi but because its a 1999 Reg it cost me £17
Matthew Haigh - 12 Oct 2007 19:34 GMT
>> Can anyone who has a 2003 (ish) 90hp 2.0 hdi have a look on their log book
>> and see what the CO2 emission is please. Mine says 151 but wifes picasso
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> better than my other car now, 407 coupe 2.7 hdi. tax £300 /year or wifes now
> 307cc  2.0 petrol  £300/year

So both of those "sensible" cars (including the fairly small 307cc) cost
£95 more a year to tax than my 3.2L V8 Jaguar XJ, and about £110 more
than my wife's 3.3L V6 Grand Voyager (that is £15 cheaper IIRC because
it also has an LPG conversion), because whilst both ours are reasonably
new, they are prior to some arbitrary cut-off date.

It's all a bit silly.

Matt
%%stu%% - 12 Oct 2007 21:53 GMT
> So both of those "sensible" cars (including the fairly small 307cc) cost
> £95 more a year to tax than my 3.2L V8 Jaguar XJ, and about £110 more
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Matt

the road tax is set by gm/km as declared by manf rather than engine size.

But there is more than road tax to running costs.  My 407 costs £159
servicing every 20k/2 years. the 406 is £180 every 12k/2 years.  The 307 is
£190 every 20k/2 years. so for 60k miles the 407 is cheaper than the 406.
then again tyres are more expensive and don't last as long on the 407, i've
just paid £310 for 2 after 18k.

I did a training course 2 years ago where the instructor had an x (s?) type
jag and assured me it had cost him £900 to have his spark plugs changed by a
mainline jag dealer.

we haven't factored in depreciation, insurance , will it fit in the
garage/drive  etc..

ultimately what do you enjoy driving and what's your budget, without
unlimited funds there's a tradeoff? My company gives me an allowance,   I've
made my choice and am happy.

stu
Matthew Haigh - 12 Oct 2007 23:28 GMT
>> So both of those "sensible" cars (including the fairly small 307cc) cost
>> £95 more a year to tax than my 3.2L V8 Jaguar XJ, and about £110 more
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> unlimited funds there's a tradeoff? My company gives me an allowance,   I've
> made my choice and am happy.

I don't disagree with anything you say (though the spark plug change
sounds expensive - a 10K service on my XJ at the local main dealer
normally sees change from £200, and that includes 8L of synthetic oil
which would cost me £90 from Halfords!).

I was really saying that the "green" tax regime is silly. The difference
in tax is nothing compared to the other running costs, therefore does
nothing except take more money for the treasury which they justify by
waving the environmental flag. It certainly isn't enough to dissuade
people from owning larger or sportier cars (if you can afford <25mpg you
can afford 27p a day extra tax), it probably only makes a big difference
at the budget end of the market.
Richard - 13 Oct 2007 20:01 GMT
All I was getting at is wifes Picasso is 147gm/kg my 406 is 151 gm/kg. Both
cars have the same 90hp engine.
That is what it says on the log book. However in the handbook for mine is
says 148 g/km.
I was wondering if Im being charged too much tax?

Richard

>>> So both of those "sensible" cars (including the fairly small 307cc) cost
>>> £95 more a year to tax than my 3.2L V8 Jaguar XJ, and about £110 more
[quoted text clipped - 42 lines]
> can afford 27p a day extra tax), it probably only makes a big difference
> at the budget end of the market.
Gary G Jones - 13 Oct 2007 20:35 GMT
Hi Richard ,
I have just been having a look on DVLA's web site and the change over point
in tax bracket (cost) is 150 for band C then from 151 is band D
the following  link should give you all the info you need, hope it helps
http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum_dg/idcplg?IdcService=GET_FILE&dID=85565&Ren
dition=Web


Best of luck
GGJ

> All I was getting at is wifes Picasso is 147gm/kg my 406 is 151 gm/kg.
> Both cars have the same 90hp engine.
[quoted text clipped - 53 lines]
>> can afford 27p a day extra tax), it probably only makes a big difference
>> at the budget end of the market.
Brian - 14 Oct 2007 09:24 GMT
> All I was getting at is wifes Picasso is 147gm/kg my 406 is 151 gm/kg. Both
> cars have the same 90hp engine.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Richard

Don't forget that the weight of the vehicle also affects the actual CO2
production. This is why the 110 is actually more efficient in the heavier
406.
 
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