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Car Forum / Peugeot Cars / April 20082003 Peugeot 307 SW HDi 110
My recently acquired 307 lacks power. Everything happens in the first half inch or so of accelerator pedal movement. Pressing it beyond that has little effect. The local garage has just changed the timing belt at 95000 miles. I had them check for fault codes but they found nothing wrong. They reckon that the turbo isn't spinning and advised me to take it to a Peugeot dealer, something I'm reluctant to do, given the way they charge! I've checked the air flow sensor which is working normally. Are there any other sensors I should look at before biting the bullet? If so can anyone suggest where I can find the normal sensor readings? Thanks in advance Richard Was the car playing up before you took it in to them??? if not it is up to them to put the fault right as it has gone wrong while it was under there care.(as tradeing standards would love to deal with this one .) >Was the car playing up before you took it in to them??? if not it is up >to them to put the fault right as it has gone wrong while it was under >there care.(as tradeing standards would love to deal with this one .) Unfortuneately yes it was. I just5 got them to run a diagnostic check whilst they did the timing belt change. They dont seam to be much of a garage, if they cant do more than a timing belt ,most of us garages can do all work on cars or vans,as we have all the Mechanics trained to do any thing which comes in .i think they dont what too know, >>Was the car playing up before you took it in to them??? if not it is up >>to them to put the fault right as it has gone wrong while it was under >>there care.(as tradeing standards would love to deal with this one .) > > Unfortuneately yes it was. I just5 got them to run a diagnostic check > whilst they did the timing belt change. This may sound silly, but have you checked the throttle cable? After some work was done on my 406 the cable had been left badly adjusted and gave much the sort of effect you are describing. Only took five minutes to put it back to its normal lively self.  SignatureKeith Willcocks (If you can't laugh at life, it ain't worth living!) >>>Was the car playing up before you took it in to them??? if not it is up >>>to them to put the fault right as it has gone wrong while it was under [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >the sort of effect you are describing. Only took five minutes to put it >back to its normal lively self. No, it's not that. In fact there's no cable, just a potentiometer on the pedal. Incidentally I've just checked the mpg. Less than 40. Rubbish really! My old 405 diesel would easily return 50 without me driving carefully. Well you know what to do then sale it and get a 405 again?? >Well you know what to do then sale it and get a 405 again?? If this thing doesn't shape up that's exactly what I'll do! That old 405 had 195000 miles on the clock when I got rid of it. I put 100000 miles on it in 5 years with no engine problems at all. I finished up running it on 30% cooking oil which stopped it smoking completely. It was by far the most reliable car I ever owned. Ahh they don't make 'em like that nowadays. I got a old 405 with over 265000 on the clock. all i have done to it is give it oil changes and filters changes,every 4th month and it has never let me down. even when it was standing around for 1 week when i went off to egypt in november last year, mind you it is a diesel.iam very very happy with it , got told when i got it that i would not like it and that was 5 years ago and i have never looked back. >I got a old 405 with over 265000 on the clock. all i have done to it is > give it oil changes and filters changes,every 4th month and it has > never let me down. even when it was standing around for 1 week when i > went off to egypt in november last year, mind you it is a diesel.iam > very very happy with it , got told when i got it that i would not like > it and that was 5 years ago and i have never looked back. I once had an 1989 205D (1.7Diesel, no turbo) I bought it with 75000 on the clock, my wife and I both drove it for several years until it had 283000 miles on it and I eventually sold it to a work mate. The last I heard it had over 300,000 on the clock. The engine has never been touched (apart from cam-belts and water pumps etc) Just change the oil+filter every 5000 miles and *never* let it run low on water or overheat because the head gaskets are a little weak. Regards Julian. >>I got a old 405 with over 265000 on the clock. all i have done to it is >> give it oil changes and filters changes,every 4th month and it has [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Regards Julian. Please, please! You're all making me feel terrible for losing that 405. I've got an awful feeling that this new thing is going to be a load of trouble. Good so go and sale that thing you got and go back to a 405. and make us all very happy lol lol. >>>I got a old 405 with over 265000 on the clock. all i have done to it is >>> give it oil changes and filters changes,every 4th month and it has [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Please, please! You're all making me feel terrible for losing that > 405. Oh, I forgot, it always returned almost exactly 60mpg and was remarkably sprightly even though it didn't have a turbo! Julian. >My recently acquired 307 lacks power. Everything happens in the first >half inch or so of accelerator pedal movement. Pressing it beyond that [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >Richard The saga continues. I've tested the MAP sensor on the road. The reading at tickover or with the engine stopped is 2.34 volts. The highest reading I got was 2.6 volts at about 3500 RPM pulling uphill in second gear. Fairly good news I suppose because it shows that the turbo is at least doing something. I reckon that if it was broken if anything I'd see a vacuum at the intercooler. On the downside though, the antipollution fault has just come up. Do you think that has been the trouble all along? Thanks Richard >>My recently acquired 307 lacks power. Everything happens in the first >>half inch or so of accelerator pedal movement. Pressing it beyond that [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > Richard Yes. The engine is limited to 2500 RPM when antipollution fault comes up. Would explain the lack of power. Godfrey. >>>My recently acquired 307 lacks power. Everything happens in the first >>>half inch or so of accelerator pedal movement. Pressing it beyond that [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >> >> O Turbos are o.k when running o.k you start getting problem with them time to get rid of it ,lol. >>>>My recently acquired 307 lacks power. Everything happens in the first >>>>half inch or so of accelerator pedal movement. Pressing it beyond that [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > Sorry if these questions show my ignorance. I've never had a turbo > diesel before. I can't add much else as I'm no expert on turbo diesels, apart from being an owner of a 307 HDi DTurbo 110 which suffered from the dreaded antipollution fault about a year ago. The only adverse effect was rev limited to 2500 RPM. As I was on a motorway at the time the car continued to drive normally as 2500 RPM in 5th gear is over 70 MPH. Anyway, the fault was fixed by my Peugeot dealer under warranty. They replaced the particulate filter in the exhaust system and the lambda sensor (exhaust gas oxygen sensor). Check this out: http://www.picotech.com/auto/lambda_sensor.html I suspect the problem with your car could be a failing sensor. One other thing, the turbo in my car makes a distinctive whine but I can only hear it with the windows open. Presumably you can hear the turbo working in your car? Godfrey >My recently acquired 307 lacks power. Everything happens in the first >half inch or so of accelerator pedal movement. Pressing it beyond that [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >Richard Just to let you know, it's fixed. There were two problems. The vacuum valve that controls the turbo was duff and the elbow connecting the vacuum pipe to the servo actuator was split. Perhaps I won't bother getting another 405 just now. I'll see how reliable this thing turns out to be. Thanks everyone, Richard So at last you got it done did it take them long to find the fault or was it in and done while you was on your way home ???(lol) Hi Richard, I have a few questions. I have a 2002 Peugeot 307 (2.0 HDi 110) with, what sounds to me to be th same problem as you had. My car also lacks power (intermittently!) with few weeks now, couldn’t put my finger on it, but from this mornin I’ve now got a light on with Anti-pollution fault message. First when i came on, the engine was limited to 2800 RPM. However once I stopped th engine at a shop and started it again the engine revs were no longe limited but the light & fault message is staying on. I’m going to chec the vacuum valve and the vacuum pipe this evening, just to confirm is th vacuum valve and pipe located in the air duct just to the right hand sid of the top of the engine which connects with the top of the intercooler o should I be looking somewhere else? You mentioned your mpg was less than 40, I too have this problem since th day I got the car which is more than a year ago now. I brought my car t two different Peugeot dealers (one while under warranty) – they’v both run diagnostic checkes and found no faults reported and they have n idea to what’s wrong. I’m getting about 450 miles to a tank of diese (53 Litres at the pump) which is about 39mpg. I know this mpg is RUBBIS as I’ve been checking these figures with some time. You see I had a 40 (2.0 HDi 110) before my 307 which was much more economical, it was doin about 700 to 770 miles to a tank of diesel (74 Litres at the pump) and m question is has the mpg improved since fixing the above problem than yo had or has your mpg stayed the same? I’m guessing that I should b getting from my 307 about 530 to 560 miles to a tank of diesel with a average of about 46mpg as its about 100 miles to 10 litres of diesel Please note I’m also ignoring the fact that a 307 is lighter than a 40 which should also improve mpg for a 307. Regards, Bryan - Message posted using http://www.talkaboutautos.com/group/alt.autos.peugeot More information at http://www.talkaboutautos.com/faq.htm >>My recently acquired 307 lacks power. Everything happens in the first >>half inch or so of accelerator pedal movement. Pressing it beyond that [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Richard Good to know you've got it fixed. Despite all the adverse criticism that the 307 receives, I really like the car. My biggest gripe is that the windscreen wipers are set up for left hand drive. Let us know how you get on. Godfrey
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