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Car Forum / Peugeot Cars / April 2008

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406 - DIY servicing?

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Doki - 23 Apr 2008 17:12 GMT
As mentioned in another post, I'm looking for a 406 HDI. Is servicing one of
these a reasonable proposition for a DIYer?
Chris - 23 Apr 2008 19:06 GMT
If you have time on your hands todo it yes it is a d,i,y job and fun
todo. at least you know it all has been done.
malc - 23 Apr 2008 19:27 GMT
> As mentioned in another post, I'm looking for a 406 HDI. Is servicing
> one of these a reasonable proposition for a DIYer?

Yes.

Oh you wanted a bit more. I haven't experience of the HDi but the mechanics
of the petrol model aren't bad. There are one or two jobs I haven't the
tools for (like hydraulic coil spring compressors and hub pullers) which
would stop me doing one or two jobs but you've probably got a load more kit
than me. I've had the front coil spring snap and couldn't do that myself for
lack of the above doofus (and time and garage space), brakes and discs are a
doddle (I changed pads with just a mole grip and a hammer).

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Chris - 23 Apr 2008 19:34 GMT
good tools for doing pad. mole grips and a hammer.hahahaha.have to get
set of them and use them next time we get a car in for pads.
Malc - 24 Apr 2008 08:01 GMT
> good tools for doing pad. mole grips and a hammer.hahahaha.have to get
> set of them and use them next time we get a car in for pads.

Well I was visiting a friend and the warninglight came on halfway
between Gloucester and Liverpool. My friend has no tools except for
the above so.....

Malc
Chris - 24 Apr 2008 13:59 GMT
At least it did the job ..and did not cost you much,
Adrian - 23 Apr 2008 20:10 GMT
malc ("malc" <malunspamwhite@blueyonder.co.uk>) gurgled happily, sounding
much like they were saying:

>> As mentioned in another post, I'm looking for a 406 HDI. Is servicing
>> one of these a reasonable proposition for a DIYer?

> Yes.

Agreed.

> Oh you wanted a bit more.

As with any common-rail wheezel, be very wary of the fuel system when
it's pressurised. It's ridiculously high pressure.
Doki - 23 Apr 2008 23:00 GMT
> malc ("malc" <malunspamwhite@blueyonder.co.uk>) gurgled happily,
> sounding much like they were saying:
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> As with any common-rail wheezel, be very wary of the fuel system when
> it's pressurised. It's ridiculously high pressure.

I remember hearing that one of the official test tools for leaks on one of
the Cit HDIs was basically a piece of paper on a very long stick. The
problem is that at that kind of pressure the diesel can shoot straight
through your skin...
Duncan Wood - 23 Apr 2008 23:13 GMT
>> malc ("malc" <malunspamwhite@blueyonder.co.uk>) gurgled happily,
>> sounding much like they were saying:
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> problem is that at that kind of pressure the diesel can shoot straight  
> through your skin...

That applys to any diesels high pressure pipe work though. Pretty much the  
first thing we got taught at Lucas was if you where stupid enough to shoot  
yoursef with an injector then go to caualty & get them to look up high  
pressure injuries whilst they tried to send you home, after an hours  
argument you'd have all the evidence you needed & you'd be in the right  
place.
Adrian - 24 Apr 2008 07:51 GMT
Duncan Wood ("Duncan Wood" <bodgedntp@dmx512.co.uk>) gurgled happily,
sounding much like they were saying:

>>> As with any common-rail wheezel, be very wary of the fuel system when
>>> it's pressurised. It's ridiculously high pressure.

>> I remember hearing that one of the official test tools for leaks on one
>> of the Cit HDIs was basically a piece of paper on a very long stick.
>> The problem is that at that kind of pressure the diesel can shoot
>> straight through your skin...

> That applys to any diesels high pressure pipe work though. Pretty much
> the first thing we got taught at Lucas was if you where stupid enough to
> shoot yoursef with an injector then go to caualty & get them to look up
> high pressure injuries whilst they tried to send you home, after an
> hours argument you'd have all the evidence you needed & you'd be in the
> right place.

Indeed.

It always makes me chuckle that common rail injection is running at many,
many times the pressure of Citroen hydraulics - yet mechanics now quite
happily working on common rails are the same people who spent decades
running scared from a mere 70 bar.
Duncan Wood - 24 Apr 2008 09:06 GMT
> Duncan Wood ("Duncan Wood" <bodgedntp@dmx512.co.uk>) gurgled happily,
> sounding much like they were saying:
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> happily working on common rails are the same people who spent decades
> running scared from a mere 70 bar.

I don't think it was the pressure that scared them :-)
PCPaul - 23 Apr 2008 21:08 GMT
> There are one or two jobs I
> haven't the tools for (like hydraulic coil spring compressors and hub
> pullers) which would stop me doing one or two jobs but you've probably
> got a load more kit than me.

Tut, tut.

"No jobs worth doing unless it needs a new tool"
malc - 23 Apr 2008 21:11 GMT
>> There are one or two jobs I
>> haven't the tools for (like hydraulic coil spring compressors and hub
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> "No jobs worth doing unless it needs a new tool"

<Hangs head in shame, kicks cat>

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Chris - 23 Apr 2008 22:10 GMT
Most hire places hire things out like that.but if you know some one
that does cars they might let you use there tools if they got that sort
of tool.
Malc - 24 Apr 2008 09:40 GMT
> Most hire places hire things out like that.but if you know some one
> that does cars they might let you use there tools if they got that sort
> of tool.

True but there's the time and space factor too. I've got to work at
the side of the road because my garage was built for 1960s cars (and
it's full of other junk) and even if I do work in front of the garage
because it's en block I'd obstruct the other people in the road etc.

--
Malc

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