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Peugeot 206 and OBD reader

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David - 12 May 2008 13:37 GMT
Hi,

I am thinking of buying one of these:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150232912484

I have a 2002 206 ('51 plate), but want to make sure it will work before
I buy.  Is the 206 at that time fully eobd compliant - ie will I be able
to read and erase codes?

Thanks
David Hearn - 12 May 2008 15:41 GMT
> Hi,
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> Thanks

I believe OBD was mandated for all EU *petrol* cars since 1st Jan 2000,
with a 1 year extension for cars already in production at that time.
So, in theory a 2002 *built* car should be fine.  However, it may have
been manufactured before that point.

Also, I understand that OBD wasn't required for diesel cars until 2003
(existing) / 2004 (all).

(for petrol)
"8.1. Vehicles with positive-ignition engines

With effect from 1 January 2000 for new types and from 1 January 2001
for all types,
vehicles of category M1, except vehicles the maximum mass of which
exceeds 2 500
kg, and vehicles of category N1 class I, must be fitted with an on-board
diagnostic
(OBD) system for emission control in accordance with Annex XI."

(for diesel)
"8.2. Vehicles with compression-ignition engines

Vehicles of category M1, except
– vehicles designed to carry more than six occupants including the driver,
– vehicles whose maximum mass exceeds 2 500 kg,
from 1 January 2003 for new types and from 1 January 2004 for all types,
must be
fitted with an on-board diagnostic (OBD) system for emission control in
accordance
with Annex XI."

<http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/automotive/pagesbackground/pollutant_emission/pol
lutant_emission.pdf
>

D
David - 12 May 2008 19:25 GMT
Thanks David.

I've gone ahead and bought it, I can always put it back on Ebay if it
doesn't work with my car.

I've had a look at my OBD pins and it appears they support ISO 9141-2,
which the reader also supports.  But of course that doesn't mean it'll
output the correct info, so we'll see.

David

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David Hearn - 13 May 2008 10:57 GMT
My old 306 had the right connector and pins, but didn't output the right
info for normal OBD readers.  However, that was a 1998 model, so far
from likely to be compliant compared to a 2002 model.

If I remember correctly, that link I sent also suggested that you could
not register a non-compliant vehicle after that date - so maybe not just
manufactured after that date.  I'd be very surprised if they left it
that late to implement it.

Good luck!

David

> Thanks David.
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David - 14 May 2008 11:40 GMT
Good news is that the device works. It used the KWP2000 protocol and I
have cleared the code.

The code was p0420, which means that cat is running below efficiency
(though it could be the oxygen sensors).

Had a new exhaust fitted by KwikFit last year, so it could be their
cheap parts.  I'll drive it for a while and see if the problem re-occurs.

David

> My old 306 had the right connector and pins, but didn't output the right
> info for normal OBD readers.  However, that was a 1998 model, so far
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