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Car Forum / Peugeot Cars / January 2004greenstuf/brembo 406
Hi again I m due to new brake pads on my 406 HDI since i find my brakes have a lot of brake fading ( i.e. braking hard makes them work diminished for a short period ) I want to use the green stuff or the brembo pads on my front brakes the thing is i don't have experience with them on a 406 so if anyone can give some thoughtful info it would be greatly appreciated EBC green stuff are made of some kevlar component which reduce the fading I have a little tendency to go to brembo (donowhy) though i cant find then in an online catalogue. another thing, does anyone know a good selling point for either one of them over here in holland greetings Marc > Hi again > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Marc Green Stuff aren't good enough for a car that heavy, you'd need Red Stuff.  SignatureDan >> Hi again >> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > >Green Stuff aren't good enough for a car that heavy, you'd need Red Stuff. i.m afraid the red stuff needs to heat up to much before they do their work properly ( i had them on my 305) though i'm wel aware the damn thing weights over 1500KG thanx for the input! I've used green and redstuff for my 206 and I dont rate those pads at all. You can try the Ferodo DS2500 or even DS3000 if u want more but they eat at your discs plus have lots of dust but who cares as they are good pads! haha Also a lot of ppl say the Mintex M1144 is pretty good. Jim > >> Hi again > >> [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > thanx for the input! >I've used green and redstuff for my 206 and I dont rate those pads at all. >You can try the Ferodo DS2500 or even DS3000 if u want more but they eat at >your discs plus have lots of dust but who cares as they are good pads! haha ferodo DS3000, on a road car? what do you do with it cannonball runs or so do you know what new disc's will cost on a 406....it's not that i drive a 406 that i'm the richest man on earth i'm afraid. And the other thing... a 406 is NOT ( by far) a fast cornering car so i won't do rally sprints with it :-) I just need brake pads that do not or do less fade, and brake like hell AND are longer lasting than race pads >Also a lot of ppl say the Mintex M1144 is pretty good. mintex hmm. rostbeef stuff on a frog car...:-) interesting discussion though >Jim > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] >> >> thanx for the input! > >> Marc > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > thanx for the input! Green are fine on my 405, but thats only 1050kg and 90bhp, Red Stuff will work just fine on a 406, i'm 100% certain of this, i've also heard good things about Mintex M1144's (if thats the right name). The Green would overheat and crumble on a 406, without a doubt. SignatureDan >> >> Marc >> > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >things about Mintex M1144's (if thats the right name). The Green would >overheat and crumble on a 406, without a doubt. I do have a little compound left on the pads so lets await the outcom of the discusion I see your point though, anyone know what make mercedis use on their heavyweights Hello, > anyone know what make mercedis use on their heavyweights Errr, one of the Bosch / Girling / Bendix brands :-) Regards, G.T g.t6@worldonline.fr 205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel : http://205d.fr.st >Hello, > >> anyone know what make mercedis use on their heavyweights >Errr, one of the Bosch / Girling / Bendix brands :-) hm like pug so to say >Regards, >G.T >g.t6@worldonline.fr >205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel : http://205d.fr.st Hi, > >> anyone know what make mercedis use on their heavyweights > >Errr, one of the Bosch / Girling / Bendix brands :-) > hm like pug so to say I guess it's the case. You know, there aren't 50 brands, so they always are the same :-) Regards, G.T g.t6@worldonline.fr 205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel : http://205d.fr.st To sort brake fade ont he 406 u need uprated disks, ive had the same problem :) and tries green stuff first, made it worse SignatureKind Regards Cheater ************************************** (Cheater2k@hotmail.com) (Msn Addy: Same as e-mail) (URL: www.comingsoon.com) ************************************** > Hi again > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Marc >To sort brake fade ont he 406 u need uprated disks, ive had the same problem >:) and tries green stuff first, made it worse so how did you sort it out... Drilled and groved disks on the front, also made the pads last a hell of alot longer to. SignatureKind Regards Cheater ************************************** (Cheater2k@hotmail.com) (Msn Addy: Same as e-mail) (URL: www.comingsoon.com) ************************************** > > >To sort brake fade ont he 406 u need uprated disks, ive had the same problem > >:) and tries green stuff first, made it worse > > so how did you sort it out... >Drilled and groved disks on the front, also made the pads last a hell of >alot longer to. so what make disc's and what make pads, as you probably know there are many on the market.. that is why i posted these questions in the first place. i want to make my discision on many opinions Ill find out, cant remember now SignatureKind Regards Cheater ************************************** (Cheater2k@hotmail.com) (Msn Addy: Same as e-mail) (URL: www.comingsoon.com) ************************************** > > >Drilled and groved disks on the front, also made the pads last a hell of [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > place. > i want to make my discision on many opinions Hello Marc, I don't like reading things like "try these pads", as braking is a too serious topic to me. Sure you agree. You complain about fading. My best advice would be to stick to original equipment pads, or try something equivalent (Bosch must do some, as Valeo (or Marchall)). I don't trust EBC, I don't know why, perhaps 'cause a lot of driving muppets (phat rims & co) use them and find them far better (so I'm dubtious). My ranking for pads (considering it's a 406, not known as a badly braked car) : - Original, or Valeo / Marchall ; - Brembo ; - Anything else. Regards, G.T g.t6@worldonline.fr 205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel : http://205d.fr.st i use green stuff pads on my 306 and whilst i can't say they brake loads better i get virtually no dust on my alloys so i that respect they are better for sure. The tarox sport discs haven't warped unlike the pug ones (3 sets in one year!). > Hello Marc, > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > g.t6@worldonline.fr > 205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel : http://205d.fr.st >Hello Marc, > >I don't like reading things like "try these pads", as braking is a too >serious topic to me. Sure you agree. My question was referring to a 406 with EBC or Brembo and sure braking is the most serious thing on a car ( after you got speed that is). it also stated that i tned to lean towards brembo since i got them now on my old 305 ( XUD9 365.000 KM )wich had brake problems since i had it and the brembo pads sorted it out. i'm just curious about using them on a heavy weight car. >You complain about fading. My best advice would be to stick to original >equipment pads, or try something equivalent (Bosch must do some, as Valeo >(or Marchall)). I don't trust EBC, I don't know why, perhaps 'cause a lot of >driving muppets (phat rims & co) use them and find them far better (so I'm >dubtious). I see your scepsis about the ones using ECB ore any other "racing"brand. I also don't fancy the Vatanen, Gronholm, Schlesser wanabee's on the open road and so far i've not heard about anyone using the mentioned brands on a big car such as the 406. however i value their opinions in the way that at least they wont have fading on their light weight cars. >My ranking for pads (considering it's a 406, not known as a badly braked >car) : > - Original, or Valeo / Marchall ; > - Brembo ; > - Anything else. it is to bad they don't have the FIA class B any more and use a 406 for it....i'd say they would have their brakes sorted out if you have a broadband connection try a search on the kazaa network for climbdance ari vatanen one of the last proper class B cars, and one of the most impressive piece of driving i've ever seen Grrrzz Marc >if you have a broadband connection try a search on the kazaa network >for [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >one of the last proper class B cars, and one of the most impressive >piece of driving i've ever seen got a link as well http://www.softlab.ece.ntua.gr/~sivann/pub/Course%20de%20Pikes%20Peak%20(Ari%20V atanen).mpeg >Grrrzz > >Marc Hello, > My question was referring to a 406 with EBC or Brembo and sure braking > is the most serious thing on a car ( after you got speed that is). So we agree on this point ! > it also stated that i tned to lean towards brembo since i got them now > on my old 305 ( XUD9 365.000 KM )wich had brake problems since i had > it and the brembo pads sorted it out. i'm just curious about using > them on a heavy weight car. May worth a try : keep in mind that Brembo brakes are fit to 406 Coup?s. > however i value their opinions in the way that at least they wont have > fading on their light weight cars. C'mon, it's like having fire on rear drums, on a less than 1-ton car, with virtually no brake at rear... > if you have a broadband connection try a search on the kazaa network > for I don't have that here :-( > climbdance ari vatanen 65MB it is - I donwloaded it, it costed me a lot some years ago. > one of the last proper class B cars, and one of the most impressive > piece of driving i've ever seen I totally agree for driving, unfortunately it just lasts 5 minutes :-( BTW, the car used (405T16 "Pikes Peak") is a Pikes-Peaks specific car, I could give you specs, but nothing really common with '87 PP where 205 Evo2 "Pikes Peak" (550HP engines) were used. Regards, G.T g.t6@worldonline.fr 205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel : http://205d.fr.st |
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