Hi,
> they made a series wich was in fact a little streched ( biggerfront
> bumper, rearbumper) to comply the FIA rules (lenght must be 4.005 m at
> least)
206 GT special series, based on GTi (S16 here). We agree.
> on tarmac the short wheelbase can be an advantage however
Less stability, easier to "throw" into curves.
> politics
> FIA homologation rules say that there has to be a production of 2500
> cars alike the wrc car in the year before the homologation
> sure pug sells enough 206's and could sell many more 206 ( wrx....?)
They made 4000 GTs (kind of gift to owners, as only 2500 were needed).
> but i bet the want to market the 307 CC a little more to push the
> sellings up.
Sure the 2500 307 CCs are built. We could imagine them to build "no worry
about selling them" 2500CCs as they built all the needed 200 205T16s before
selling them. Even if one stayed at Peugeot Sochaux (now in Museum).
> technical
Ah :-)
> ENGINE
> Type . XU7JP4
> Position . Front, transverse
> Number of cylinders . 4
> Capacity . 1,997cc
Sure it's XU7, not XU10 ? However, I see it's a XU, once again... The most
titled engine made by Pug (7 times world rally champion, 7 times won the
Paris-Dakar, IIRC, and twice Pikes Peak) :-)
(Yes, I love XUs for some reasons I don't know myself).
> Bore x stroke (mm) . 85 x 88
Seems it uses a low part of XU9 :-)
> Power . 300 bhp DIN at 5,250 rpm
Quite low revs.
> Torque . 580 Nm at 3,500 rpm
Quite low revs, long stroke rules, not a bad idea for a rally car.
> Cylinder head . Aluminium
> Valves . 4 per cylinder
Strange choice 4 valves.
> Cylinder block . Aluminium
> Camshafts . 2 OHC
> Fuel system . MAGNETI-MARRELLI STEP 9
:-( Would have preffered a Bosch Motronic v7 or v8.
> Turbo . GARRETT HONEYWELL
> Lubrication . Carbon wet sump
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> Clutch . Carbon, 6'' triple plate
> Gearbox . transverse, 5 speed HEWLAND
5, not 6 ?
> Differentials . Active front, rear and central
> SUSPENSION
> Front and rear . McPherson type
> Shock absorbers . PEUGEOT
Electronically controlled, I suppose ?
> STEERING
> Type . power steering, rack and pinion
> BRAKES
> Front . Vented 370 mm diameter discs
> and 8-pot calipers (295mm*)
> Rear . 370 mm diameter discs (295mm*)
> 4-pot calipers
Steel discs ?
> Weight . 1,230 kg
Seems a bit heavy to me, but it's a 4WD...
Thanks for the info. I suspect some of these as being a bit wrong (5 gears
would amaze me).
Regards,
G.T
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Marc - 22 Jan 2004 22:09 GMT
>Hi,
>
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>titled engine made by Pug (7 times world rally champion, 7 times won the
>Paris-Dakar, IIRC, and twice Pikes Peak) :-)
yup it's a beefed up XU7, got the info from pug
>(Yes, I love XUs for some reasons I don't know myself).
I know i drove about 900.000km's in XUD's and the HDI i got now is
also a XUD based lump, we share the same love
>> Bore x stroke (mm) . 85 x 88
>Seems it uses a low part of XU9 :-)
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>> Gearbox . transverse, 5 speed HEWLAND
>5, not 6 ?
it's what pug say's, but seeing the masive torque i guess it has the
more or less standard gear setup of a long 1e and four close ratio
gears
>> Differentials . Active front, rear and central
>> SUSPENSION
>> Front and rear . McPherson type
>> Shock absorbers . PEUGEOT
>Electronically controlled, I suppose ?
one cant do without these day's ( yes i got them too! )
>> STEERING
>> Type . power steering, rack and pinion
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>> 4-pot calipers
>Steel discs ?
I supose some ceramic whatever stuf, dont now
>> Weight . 1,230 kg
>Seems a bit heavy to me, but it's a 4WD...
>
>Thanks for the info. I suspect some of these as being a bit wrong (5 gears
>would amaze me).
again the info came from pug as they published it on their website
i'd prefer a 6 gear probably but i havent driven the 307wrc....
you can find some info here
http://www.peugeot-avenue.com/index.asp?num_page=114&langue=en
>Regards,
>G.T
>g.t6@worldonline.fr
>205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel : http://205d.fr.st
G.T - 23 Jan 2004 13:20 GMT
Hello,
> >Sure it's XU7, not XU10 ? However, I see it's a XU, once again... The most
> >titled engine made by Pug (7 times world rally champion, 7 times won the
> >Paris-Dakar, IIRC, and twice Pikes Peak) :-)
> yup it's a beefed up XU7, got the info from pug
OK.
> >(Yes, I love XUs for some reasons I don't know myself).
> I know i drove about 900.000km's in XUD's and the HDI i got now is
> also a XUD based lump, we share the same love
True, HDis are DW1xT series, and it's known that W range is an evolution of
XUs - that tends to prove that the XU was a damn well designed engine,
remember it was released in 1980, IIRC and still up to date !
> >> Gearbox . transverse, 5 speed HEWLAND
> >5, not 6 ?
> it's what pug say's, but seeing the masive torque i guess it has the
> more or less standard gear setup of a long 1e and four close ratio
> gears
Perhaps. All these gears / gearbox question will have an answer with the
Monte-Carlo, IMO. Wait & see.
> >Electronically controlled, I suppose ?
> one cant do without these day's ( yes i got them too! )
You got an active suspension system on the 406 ? I guess I took it wrong...
> >Thanks for the info. I suspect some of these as being a bit wrong (5 gears
> >would amaze me).
> again the info came from pug as they published it on their website
Perhaps some info is wrong, as it's racing info, it may volountary be wrong.
> i'd prefer a 6 gear probably but i havent driven the 307wrc....
Neither have I :-)
> you can find some info here
> http://www.peugeot-avenue.com/index.asp?num_page=114&langue=en
OK, I'm gonna have a look. You were right, it's an interresting thread, but
are there only two people here to be interrested by the "next big thing" at
Peugeot Sport ?
Regards,
G.T
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Marc - 24 Jan 2004 04:02 GMT
>Hello,
>
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>XUs - that tends to prove that the XU was a damn well designed engine,
>remember it was released in 1980, IIRC and still up to date !
>> >> Gearbox . transverse, 5 speed HEWLAND
>> >5, not 6 ?
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>> one cant do without these day's ( yes i got them too! )
>You got an active suspension system on the 406 ? I guess I took it wrong...
it is a rare option but some ( few ) were fitted with them.
>> >Thanks for the info. I suspect some of these as being a bit wrong (5
>gears
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>g.t6@worldonline.fr
>205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel : http://205d.fr.st
G.T - 25 Jan 2004 13:05 GMT
Hello,
> >You got an active suspension system on the 406 ? I guess I took it wrong...
> it is a rare option but some ( few ) were fitted with them.
Ok, so I got it the right way. Does it bring something new / unusual
compared to "conventionnal" suspensions ? I.e, what about comfort, handling,
... ?
Regards,
G.T
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Marc - 26 Jan 2004 17:54 GMT
>Hello,
>
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>compared to "conventionnal" suspensions ? I.e, what about comfort, handling,
>... ?
Iasked the prev owner who happens to be theowner of several pug and
toyota gagages and a transport company
the story is that he had it installed from a coupé ( dont aks me how
they did that) which he initially wanted to have, but since he has
three little children the break was wat he ended up with... so he
spiced it up with the servo driven shocks, a faster chip ( 138 BHP)
and some more coupe stuff.
it has five presets from soft to hard absorption, ( wich i understand
is rare since the coupe has only sport and soft.).
they also have a class N 206 rally car so i suspect they used
something of that to, when i see him again i'll ask
Grrzz
Marc
>Regards,
>G.T
>g.t6@worldonline.fr
>205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel : http://205d.fr.st