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Car Forum / Pontiac / Pontiac Firebird / March 2005

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FUP: Sad news for me

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Weland - 04 Feb 2005 15:49 GMT
Hi again...

Well I got the bad news (on Wednesday) that the car is a total loss.  The
insurance adjuster stopped estimating at $15K and the body shop had already
arrived at $13K without taking into account the cost to repair the frame.  I
don't have any place to store it so I guess I need to negotiate with my
insurer over the best valuation of the car.  I have managed to find all my
receipts, in one form or another, for all of the hardware I upgraded,
including the brakes.  I'm not having much luck finding another Firebird
that sounds like a sure thing, with what seems like such a short time-frame
to work with (I am one of the few, apparently, that didn't see fit to add
rental reimbursement on my ins. policy).

At his point I don't think there's much to gain since I don't have the
expertise to second-guess the body shop on whether it's worth fighting for
(to repair the car), especially since the ins. co would only sell it back to
me with a salvage title... and I have nowhere to store it.  I've been
checking LS1.com and fbody.org, and looking at other car options, but I'll
be damned if I have go non-GM.

On the one hand, I think it's clear that the ins. co. will take the easy way
out (whatever that happens to be) to avoid paying over $10K in repairs and
continuing insuring same car. On the other hand, I think the body shop, whom
I trust fairly well, has a point about the impracticability of spending
thousands more than I can spare to get it to a state that won't be like it
used to be.  Sounds like I'm out of options here, eh?

Btw, the ins. co. wants the car towed to a salvage yard (because they don't
want to keep paying $50 a day for storage) and they haven't given me a
settlement figure, which they implied I could negotiate on!

~w~ (Robert)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Weland" <welandir@comcast.net>
Newsgroups: alt.autos.camaro.firebird
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 11:09 AM
Subject: Sad news for me

> I had a car accident on my way home from work and it looks to me like the

> car (my 2001 Firebird Formula) is a total loss.  I reacted suddenly to
> maneuver around a vehicle that cut into my lane as we were going around a
> bend to the right (on Park Presidio in San Francisco) and lost control of
my
> vehicle, which fish-tailed and lost traction.  I bumped the vehicle that
was
> in front of me and while trying to regain control of my car, hit the wall
> that divides the traffic heading north and south.  There was light rain
and
> the roads were wet, and I had absolutely no traction -- it was like I was
> sliding on grease.  The front end on the driver's side was smashed in,
both
> airbags deployed and the windshield is shattered.  It just doesn't seem
> likely that the car can be repaired, but I have to wait and see what the
> adjuster says when they finally look at it some time today.  This is the
> first time I was ever involved in an accident on wet roads.  What really
> bums me out (though I came out of it apparently unscathed), is that I
> purchased the car new and would obviously not be able to do that again for
> another Firebird.  If it is totalled, I hope the ins. co. will allow me to
> recover all the parts I invested into it (like my stereo, Corsa exhaust,
and
> an assortment of SLP parts under the hood).
>
> This is difficult to cope with, especially since I loved that car.
>
> ~w~
FBR - 05 Feb 2005 00:08 GMT
> Hi again...
>
> Well I got the bad news

Snipped for space, not content.

As much as losing a well loved car can hurt it doesn't really sound like
you'd want to try having it fixed.  Maybe this is a chance to start over
with what you've learned and make your next ride even better.
SgtSilicon - 05 Feb 2005 03:29 GMT
Sorry to hear it.  In short it is, as has already been said, TOTALED.
Accept it.  Look for your next opportunity in rides.

>Hi again...
>
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>>
>> ~w~
GLK9MM - 05 Feb 2005 16:13 GMT
> Hi again...
>
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>>
>>~w~

That is heartbreaking.  In regards to your stereo and exhaust, etc.  Do
you have the OEM parts?  If the after market parts were not covered by
insurance, then I imagine you should be allowed to swap 'em.  It might
be worth a conversation to find out.

I know you had your car Dyno'd and a few time slips.  You might consider
a framing them in a nice collage or something.  A little memorial to
your downed bird.

    Martin
    '01 Formula -    MTI Air Box Lid, K&N Filter, Hurst-6,
            SLP Cold Air Induction & Smooth Intake Bellow
            Corsa Catback w/Premium Tips
    '83 V45 Magna
Seppburgh2 - 08 Feb 2005 05:13 GMT
If you can a firm estimate for repair from another shop, maybe the insurance
company will cut a check for x dollars with you to the difference.  The other
thing is to buy it back at aution and fix it you.

Or, take the 10 grand and go for a 20000, 01 or 02 model.  AutoTrader in
Pennsylvaia had good examples in the mid teenns.  Good luck.
Charles Bendig - 08 Feb 2005 10:24 GMT
> Hi again...
>
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>>
>>~w~

   
    Sounds like your at a place I have been before. Some cars are worth the
loss to just replace, other are not.

    Never let a bodyshop tell you a car is beyound repair. I saw a 68
Mercades come in boxes & crates in to the bodyshop I apprenticed in.
2 Years later, after spending a year out getting the mechanicals rebuilt
and installed, the freashly painted car went out and hit the auction
block. Brought 3 fold what the owner had invested. The largest intact
parts of that car when it came in were the Hood, Engine, Doors, Decklid,
& removible hard top.

    Any Real Body Man can straighten a wrecked, smashed beyound belief ride
and make it better then new. Yet the ones who can probably will run you
cost wise more then twice the claim payout.

    For someone in your situation it might be better to get a cheep beater,
while hunting down a FireHawk, or other desirible T/A to replace the
wrecked one with.

BTW: whats the buy back amount?

Charles
Weland - 09 Feb 2005 04:49 GMT
> BTW: whats the buy back amount?
>
> Charles

I don't have the exact figure yet (should know some time Wed.), but it may
hearten some of you to know it looks to be close to $20K.  They were able to
give me something for the aftermarket equipment.  If this pans out I'll give
yall the speil on how that came to be *crossing my fingers*.

~w~
arocars - 15 Mar 2005 18:42 GMT
> > BTW: whats the buy back amount?
> >
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>
> ~w~

If the repair costs are 70-75% of the value of the car the insurance
company will total it.  If its borderline, the adjuster will usually
have the flexibility to go either way.  In general, if your car has
that much damage it will never be the same again.  Let the insurance
company total it.  Also, if your car is totalled, let the insurance
company tow it away to save the storage charges.  Otherwise, you?ll
get stuck with them.  They will usually tow it to a salvage yard where
there is no storage charges, or way less storage charges.  Unless the
car has special meaning to you or unless you have the ability to
repair the car yourself, let the company total it.  A car with a
salvage title is worth considerably less.  As a last tip, the
adjusters usually have some leeway as to the final value of the car.
Stuff like aftermarket radios and custom items dont really add any
value to your car.  At least, not to the insurance company.  But the
adjuster ?can? let you take your aftermarket stuff and put the stock
stuff back on.  Most auto adjusters are car-enthusiasts too.
 
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