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Is there any way to identify a hurst shifter out of a 4th gen?

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TOM - 17 May 2005 14:55 GMT
I think that I bought a Hurst shifter off of ebay, the seller said it was a
hurst but it has no markings on it, is there any way to measure or find
casting marks to identify whether this is actually a Hurst shifter and not
just a standard shifter?  Any help would be appreciated...
RSCamaro - 18 May 2005 11:08 GMT
>I think that I bought a Hurst shifter off of ebay, the seller said it was a
>hurst but it has no markings on it, is there any way to measure or find
>casting marks to identify whether this is actually a Hurst shifter and not
>just a standard shifter?  Any help would be appreciated...

You didn't give enough information.  What does it look like, what
transmission did you buy it for?

                           ...Ron
--
68' Camaro RS
88' Firebird Formula
00' Mustang GT Vert
TOM - 18 May 2005 15:38 GMT
Sorry, for the lack of info, this is a T56 manual tranny for a 99 camaro ss,
it had the stock shifter and I purchased a used shifter off of ebay tha is
supposed to be the Hurst Shifter option from a 2000 T/A,  The Hurst optional
shifter is supposed to have a shorter throw than the stock shifter.

Just curious if there is anything that would allow me to indentify this
shifter as actually the hurst shifter since it is not marked that I have
found, I am trying to make sure that it is not just another stock shifter
being masqueraded as a hurst shifter... thanks for the reply..
RSCamaro - 19 May 2005 01:01 GMT
>Sorry, for the lack of info, this is a T56 manual tranny for a 99 camaro ss,
>it had the stock shifter and I purchased a used shifter off of ebay tha is
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>found, I am trying to make sure that it is not just another stock shifter
>being masqueraded as a hurst shifter... thanks for the reply..

A couple of things come to mind.
1. I would think that somewhere on the body there will be the word
Hurst.

2. It should be made out of aluminum and have stops built into the
side to keep the shifter arm from goint too far.

3. Look on web pages such as Summit and Jegs to make comparisons
between the two.

I have no personnal knowledge of the billet shifters other than the
one I put into my Bird which was made by Proform.  Good luck.

                    ...Ron
--
68' Camaro RS
88' Firebird Formula
00' Mustang GT Vert
GLK9MM - 19 May 2005 01:17 GMT
>>Sorry, for the lack of info, this is a T56 manual tranny for a 99 camaro ss,
>>it had the stock shifter and I purchased a used shifter off of ebay tha is
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> 88' Firebird Formula
> 00' Mustang GT Vert

Another big give away of the 2000 T/A Hurst sifter is the BIG FRIGGIN
"H" ON TOP OF THE KNOB.

    Martin
    '01 Formula -    MTI Air Box Lid, K&N Filter, Hurst-6,
            SLP Cold Air Induction & Smooth Intake Bellow
            Corsa Catback w/Premium Tips
    '83 V45 Magna
TOM - 19 May 2005 14:08 GMT
This is ebay, he sold the knob in another auction i would guess, the one I
bought didnt't come with it...also the knob fits both...
Jimmy - 19 May 2005 19:48 GMT
Well, mine is black, and short and other than the giant H on the
shifter handle and my window sticker that says it was an option.....I
dunno....never pulled the console apart either. Contact Hurst. I know
they have a rebuild service for thier very old stuff. (ala old A-body
cars)

Hurst Shifter Rebuild Service
550 Mallory Way
Carson City, NV 89701-5374
216/688-8300, ext. 5 (tech)
www.mrgasket.com/hurstmain.html

> This is ebay, he sold the knob in another auction i would guess, the one I
> bought didnt't come with it...also the knob fits both...
GLK9MM - 20 May 2005 14:17 GMT
> Well, mine is black, and short and other than the giant H on the
> shifter handle and my window sticker that says it was an option.....I
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
>>bought didnt't come with it...also the knob fits both...

I haven't had a reason to pull the shroud off mine either, so I cannot
tell you any identifying marks on the base.  =(

I've thought about putting in a shorter throw though, so maybe in the
near future, but right now I just don't have time to muck around with my
car.  Sorry.

    Martin
    '01 Formula -    MTI Air Box Lid, K&N Filter, Hurst-6,
            SLP Cold Air Induction & Smooth Intake Bellow
            Corsa Catback w/Premium Tips
    '83 V45 Magna
Kevin Klement - 02 Jun 2005 00:17 GMT
Hi GLK9MM,

Wednesday May 18 2005, GLK9MM writes to RSCamaro:

> Another big give away of the 2000 T/A Hurst sifter is the
> BIG FRIGGIN "H" ON TOP OF THE KNOB.

Good info!

                                                  Kevin
                                                  klement@shaw.ca
user@domain.invalid - 04 Jun 2005 00:59 GMT
> I think that I bought a Hurst shifter off of ebay, the seller said it was a
> hurst but it has no markings on it, is there any way to measure or find
> casting marks to identify whether this is actually a Hurst shifter and not
> just a standard shifter?  Any help would be appreciated...

did you ever figure it out?  are there part #'s on the shifter?
the part # for the regular shifter is 12523303
the part # for the hurst is 88893296

frankly, I have the hurst sh.tter (that's not a typo) in my 01 WS6 and
am not that impressed with it.  When I do the clutch it's coming out.
One too many 2-1 upshifts at the drag strip makes me nervous.

:)
Terminal Crazy - 04 Jun 2005 01:16 GMT
> One too many 2-1 upshifts at the drag strip makes me nervous.

I've only got the stock shifter :- 3-2 upshifts on the bypass makes
everyone nervous :->

Seriously though, is there anything better if the Hurst isn't any good ?

Signature

Mitch - 1995 Z28 LT1 M6
terminal_crazy@sand-hill.freeserve.co.uk
Lancashire England

user@domain.invalid - 04 Jun 2005 04:42 GMT
>>One too many 2-1 upshifts at the drag strip makes me nervous.
>
> I've only got the stock shifter :- 3-2 upshifts on the bypass makes
> everyone nervous :->
>
> Seriously though, is there anything better if the Hurst isn't any good ?

Pro 5.0 or the B&M seems what everyone else has.
Of course no one I know has one that I can try... so I'm stuck with mail
order... and I'm seriously contemplating doing it when I do the clutch
in a few weeks.  (you gotta take the shifter off anyway...)

Ray
GLK9MM - 04 Jun 2005 05:37 GMT
>>> One too many 2-1 upshifts at the drag strip makes me nervous.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Ray
I've installed a Pro 5.0 on a buddy's car and i've been impressed with it.

Signature

    Martin
    '01 Formula -    MTI Air Box Lid, K&N Filter, Hurst-6,
            SLP Cold Air Induction & Smooth Intake Bellow
            Corsa Catback w/Premium Tips
    '83 V45 Magna

Charles Bendig - 05 Jun 2005 17:45 GMT
>> I think that I bought a Hurst shifter off of ebay, the seller said it
>> was a
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> :)

    Learn how to shift then. The whole point of a short throw shifter is
less distance of travel & quicker shifts. If you can't get thrid, don't
blaime the shifter, learn the friggin shift gate.
Charles
user@domain.invalid - 06 Jun 2005 02:49 GMT
>>> I think that I bought a Hurst shifter off of ebay, the seller said it
>>> was a
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> blaime the shifter, learn the friggin shift gate.
> Charles

Uh, yeah.  Have you driven an LS1 powered car at the drag strip?
I have.  (63 times.) The Hurst shifter is not a short throw shifter.
It's a mushy stock shifter with a fancy knob.

It's hard enough to be consistent with a stickshift car in a bracket
race without worrying about the shifter hanging up on you.  I also don't
can't afford to bend pushrods with a missed shift... and it's only been
a couple of times - but that's a couple more times than I'd like to take
a chance with my engine...

If the stock shifter was so great you'd be able to find a lot more
people defending it as being great - instead you find most guys with
modded LS1's running non-stock shifters.

:)
Charles Bendig - 06 Jun 2005 15:16 GMT
>>>> I think that I bought a Hurst shifter off of ebay, the seller said
>>>> it was a
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
>
> :)

    No I have not driven a LS1 car at the strip, want to loan me yours?

    I have driven a LS1 car HARD on the streets. It was a standard
transmission even. Guess I am just lucky since I didn't miss a single shift.

    No it is not hard for most of us to be consistant in the 1/4 with a
manuial transmission.
Charles
user@domain.invalid - 09 Jun 2005 03:42 GMT
>>>>> I think that I bought a Hurst shifter off of ebay, the seller said
>>>>> it was a
[quoted text clipped - 44 lines]
> manuial transmission.
> Charles
come to Winnipeg and I'll let you drive it.
I've bounced it off the rev limiter, smoked the clutch, I run nitrous...
I'm not worried about you breaking it.
:)
I haven't missed a LOT of shifts... but one was enough to scare the
beejezus out of my visa card... visions of 9000 rpm carnage...
:)
 
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