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Car Forum / Pontiac / Pontiac Firebird / July 2005

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KITTvsKARR - 18 May 2005 07:16 GMT
Hey everyone...
A quick update, I finally replaced the slave cylinder on the 'Bird and she
really purrs now... runs like a charm.. just gotta start tackleing the
little things like no dash lights, no taillights (but brakelights), no
wipers.. etc... but with removing the under dash pad I found a kill
switch!  With it flipped, key wont do a thing.  Anyway, on to the question
at hand...

A quick bringing up to speed....The '85 'Bird has a 350 rebuilt and bored
60 over matched with a B&W 5-speed.  It does not have t-tops, and the a/c
parts have been removed with the swap was done.I originally wanted to take
the 360 5-speed out of the 'bird and swap it with the 305 auto out of the
Formula (Which has T-tops).  I just had a friend tell me his brother had a
shot in Dubuque, Iowa.. 20 miles from me, do a t-top conversion for $400
for everything and guaranteed leak free... Now I haven't talked to the
shop yet... but I have heard horror stories about car that were converted.
Is it something to pursue?  The problems I see are that it has a pretty
powerful engine and a 5-speed transmission.  Since the car didn't have
T-tops as a factory option, it isn't reinforced.  The body seems in much
better condition than the Formula as well though.  Any and all comments
are welcomed.

-Geno
1985 Blue Camaro 2.8L auto w/T-tops
1988 Blue Firebird Formula 5.0L auto w/T-tops
1985 Brown Firebird 350(360) 5-speed NO T-tops
Still looking for an 82-84 T/A w/T-tops
Charles Bendig - 18 May 2005 07:51 GMT
> Hey everyone...
> A quick update, I finally replaced the slave cylinder on the 'Bird and she
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> 1985 Brown Firebird 350(360) 5-speed NO T-tops
> Still looking for an 82-84 T/A w/T-tops

    Your Dashlamps and Taillamps should be on the same circuit. Start
checking at the fuseblock then the dashswitch.

    As for converting to a T-roof. The ONLY way a third gen should be done
is with a Roof Swap. This means having a Compitent Body man brace the
body, and remove the roof at the factory seams, then install a T-roof
from a donar car.

    T-Roof Third Gens have a extra back bone in the roof.

    If You want I can sell you a T-roof for a conversion for $400 including
the T-tops. Although I would highly recomend using a Damn good body man
(a real master), and installing sub-frame connectors first.

Charles
db - 23 May 2005 14:46 GMT
>> Hey everyone... A quick update, I finally replaced the slave cylinder
>> on the 'Bird and she
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> Charles

Not sure if I would do a T-top conversion on a 3rd gen, but my 4th gen
T-top conversion was a breeze, as they all come with a T-top brace from
the factory... :-)

I've seen one person try to do this on their 81 camaro, and the front
windshield came down....  :-(

D
Charles Bendig - 23 May 2005 19:00 GMT
>>> Hey everyone... A quick update, I finally replaced the slave cylinder
>>> on the 'Bird and she
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> D

    2nd Gens have weak roofs. Even the factory T-toped second gens start
sagging (not all but some). The wild thing is they made a few
convertible second gens. Companies like ASC, not GM. I wonder how they
braced the uni-body?
Charles
KITTvsKARR - 24 May 2005 05:41 GMT
I didn't know 2nd gens had a uni-body?  Thought it had a frame.....

-Geno
1985 Blue Camaro 2.8L auto w/T-tops
1988 Blue Firebird Formula 5.0L auto w/T-tops
1985 Brown Firebird 350(360) 5-speed NO T-tops
Still looking for an 82-84 T/A w/T-tops
Charles Bendig - 24 May 2005 20:04 GMT
> I didn't know 2nd gens had a uni-body?  Thought it had a frame.....
>
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> 1985 Brown Firebird 350(360) 5-speed NO T-tops
> Still looking for an 82-84 T/A w/T-tops

    All F-bodys, and X bodies (novas) are Uni-body. First and Second  Gen
F-bodies have a removiable front sub frame. Third and Forth Gens have a
Removiable Front Engine Crossmember.

    Chevy Vans from 1969 Up Have also been Uni-Body (Including Astro Vans)
with a Removible front frame section.

    Ford Mustangs have always Been Uni-Body as well as the old ford Falcons
too. Uni-Body has been around since the erly 60's.
Charles
partsmore - 09 Jul 2005 21:05 GMT
My 79 Trans Am had t's and loved them
my 89 Camaro has them - awesum-

Just wish my 98 Dodge Ram had them!

:*)  only $400.00  hmmmmmmmmmmm
 
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