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Car Forum / Pontiac / Pontiac Firebird / June 2005

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what kind of oil additive can avoid the engine oil leak?

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Andy - 02 Jun 2005 18:37 GMT
sb tell me my used car have some of the engine oil leak, the simple way is
to add some additive. who know what kind of oil additive is availabel? where
?

Andy
I'm Right - 02 Jun 2005 18:55 GMT
There is no additive that can stop a leak.

You must have the gasket or seal replaced.
Then you need to work on your grammar and spelling.

> sb tell me my used car have some of the engine oil leak, the simple way is
> to add some additive. who know what kind of oil additive is availabel? where
> ?
>
> Andy
Andy - 03 Jun 2005 17:48 GMT
I means the oil leak indecate burning oil in cylinder,
the cylinder or the seal on the piston has some weared.

> There is no additive that can stop a leak.
>
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> >
> > Andy
Bruce Chang - 03 Jun 2005 18:30 GMT
>I means the oil leak indecate burning oil in cylinder,
> the cylinder or the seal on the piston has some weared.
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>> >
>> > Andy

If you know where the leak is, it would be helpful in helping you.
Otherwise, I would suggest that you fix the leak properly.  Replace the
gasket or seal.  Any additives will just make your life harder in the
future.
Charles Bendig - 05 Jun 2005 17:46 GMT
> I means the oil leak indecate burning oil in cylinder,
> the cylinder or the seal on the piston has some weared.

    No a leak means a gasket has failed. Not the oil Skirts on the pistons.
Charles
Nothegger - 07 Jun 2005 18:32 GMT
>I means the oil leak indecate burning oil in cylinder,
> the cylinder or the seal on the piston has some weared.

You need to be specific. Does oil leak out of the engine (on the road) and
you need to replace gasket, or into the cylider (and car is burning oil and
smoking) and you need to replace valve gaskets. The aditive won't help
either way.
Nothegger - 09 Jun 2005 09:27 GMT
So engine is burning oil. Then I'd have to agree with the guys here and say
you have to replace valve seals. I really don't think it's that big repair
job, or expensive.
Kevin Klement - 09 Jun 2005 20:45 GMT
Hi Nothegger,

Thursday June 09 2005, Nothegger writes to All:

> So engine is burning oil. Then I'd have to agree with the
> guys here and say you have to replace valve seals. I really
> don't think it's that big repair job, or expensive.

Want to bet?

... Sleep is an inadequate substitute for caffeine.
Nothegger - 14 Jun 2005 21:04 GMT
> Hi Nothegger,
>
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>
> Want to bet?

Oh c'mon..

That depends a lot on the engine. I thought he had a Chevy or Pontiac engine
since he posted here. Compared to what kinds of mulfunction you can have,
like warped crank, cracked piston rings, broken lifter, broken valve,
cracked spring, not to mention they couse even further damage, I do think
that a set of valve seals is relatively inexpensive. It depends on the
engine how hard is to get to them...
Charles Bendig - 15 Jun 2005 03:54 GMT
>>Hi Nothegger,
>>
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> that a set of valve seals is relatively inexpensive. It depends on the
> engine how hard is to get to them...

    Changing valve stem seals on a OHV engine, with the hads installed, and
in the engine in the vehical can be a royal pain. OHC engines just
slightly less so, as valve lash settings are not a concern.

    Most of the time I would rather pull the heads, do the stem seal  with
the heads on a work bench. Yes this does cost more, yet any valve or
head problems can be spotted & corrected.

    Sometimes Stemseals are blaimed for other issues as damamge, or
'colapsed' rings. As well as pistons with a hole in them. A piston with
a hole in it will suck oil out of the sump, and pump it in to the
exhaust system.
Charles
Nothegger - 15 Jun 2005 09:03 GMT
> Changing valve stem seals on a OHV engine, with the hads installed, and in
> the engine in the vehical can be a royal pain. OHC engines just slightly
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> will suck oil out of the sump, and pump it in to the exhaust system.
> Charles

All right, you made your point. But as Andy was saying, his engine is
burning oil so that can have two couses: valve seals need replacement or
piston rings don't seal well. And I said it was more likely the seals. I DO
think that replacing piston rings is way more pain and expensive than valve
seals. Not only you have to pull the heads but also rip apart the block and
the rotating assembly (with the engine out of the vehicle of course).
Compared to that stem seals ARE less complicated/expensive.
Kevin Klement - 17 Jun 2005 22:08 GMT
> Oh c'mon..

> That depends a lot on the engine. I thought he had a Chevy

On a Chev, yes agreed, it be pretty cheep. On a Ford or Toyota
a lot more
dollars. On a Dodge, farley cheep. Don't like Dodges, did a
good made a
good hemy tho.
                                                  Kevin

... I Said NO to Drugs But They DIDN'T LISTEN...
Kevin Klement - 17 Jun 2005 22:50 GMT
> Oh c'mon..

> That depends a lot on the engine. I thought he had a Chevy

On a Chev, yes agreed, it be pretty cheep. On a Ford or Toyota
a lot more
dollars. On a Dodge, farley cheep. Don't like Dodges, did a
good made a
good hemy tho.
                                                  Kevin

... I Said NO to Drugs But They DIDN'T LISTEN...
Cy Welch - 10 Jun 2005 02:06 GMT
> So engine is burning oil. Then I'd have to agree with the guys here and say
> you have to replace valve seals. I really don't think it's that big repair
> job, or expensive.

This actually depends on whether you are burning the oil through the
valve guides or the rings.  And if the valve guides, whether it is just
the seals or that the guides are worn.  Fixing excessive oil use is
often an expensive repair, and one should always prepare for the worst
and then try to make it the best.

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Georg Hanuschik - 06 Jun 2005 14:58 GMT
thank you,  Mr. super Right,

that was it what we are waiting for!

Grammar and spelling ...

Seems you know more than others do!

Sorry, Andy, for (t)his mess.

G.

> There is no additive that can stop a leak.
>
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> >
> > Andy
 
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