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Car Forum / Pontiac / Pontiac Firebird / June 2005Power window relays
Does anyone know where the power window relay is for a 1980 Trans Am, and what it looks like, I have pulled and tugged everything I can find and still cannot locate. >Does anyone know where the power window relay is for a 1980 Trans Am, and >what it looks like, I have pulled and tugged everything I can find and still >cannot locate. Under the dash on the driver's side. It should just be hanging there. The yellow one is for the horn and the green one is for the power windows.  Signature_________________________________________________________________ Dennis Smith -1971 Trans Am - 455 H.O. - M21 4speed - Cameo white/blue stripe- -1973 Trans Am - 455 - TH400 auto - Buccaneer red- -1984 Trans Am - 5.0 L - TH700R4 auto - Royal blue/silver aero- _________________________________________________________________ relays? there ain't no stinkin relays. they should be directly wired to the switches. > >Does anyone know where the power window relay is for a 1980 Trans Am, and > >what it looks like, I have pulled and tugged everything I can find and still > >cannot locate. > > Under the dash on the driver's side. It should just be hanging there. The > yellow one is for the horn and the green one is for the power windows. >relays? >there ain't no stinkin relays. >they should be directly wired to the switches. Wrong once again I'm Right. The 2nd gen has always had a power window relay. You should know what you are talking about before saying something! One thing is for sure ... you are NEVER Right! LOL! Why do you go back to SPAMing about your website? Signature_________________________________________________________________ Dennis Smith -1971 Trans Am - 455 H.O. - M21 4speed - Cameo white/blue stripe- -1973 Trans Am - 455 - TH400 auto - Buccaneer red- -1984 Trans Am - 5.0 L - TH700R4 auto - Royal blue/silver aero- _________________________________________________________________ Hi Dennis, Friday June 10 2005, Dennis Smith writes to All: > One thing is for sure ... you are NEVER Right! LOL! Why > do you go back to SPAMing about your website? For SURE! ... A husband is a lover who pushed his luck too far! actually I'm right is right....went to the dealership the relays were not part of the cars in 80, 77 etc yes perhaps, the window motors have relays built in and are wired direct...the problem I had was when I bolted the seats down I pinched a wire.....so now all is good >>relays? >>there ain't no stinkin relays. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > to > SPAMing about your website? > actually I'm right is right....went to the dealership the relays were not > part of the cars in 80, 77 etc yes perhaps, the window motors have relays [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >>to >>SPAMing about your website? Where is BigJFig when you need him? Charles My 78 had a small silver 30 amp relay in the same area as the fuse block..... Stan > > actually I'm right is right....went to the dealership the relays were not > > part of the cars in 80, 77 etc yes perhaps, the window motors have relays [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Where is BigJFig when you need him? > Charles that is a CIRCUIT BREAKER no relays in the door locks or window circuits I have owned Camaros since before you were even born. I've rebuilt many from the ground up. and once again a jealous little geek punk like you who hasn't even begun to shave can just go back to reading your nursery rhymes and leave us big kids alone. > My 78 had a small silver 30 amp relay in the same area as the fuse > block..... [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Where is BigJFig when you need him? > > Charles >that is a CIRCUIT BREAKER >no relays in the door locks or window circuits You're going to have to tell that to my '73 Trans Am and the '73 factory service manual and the parts book. There is clearly a relay in the wiring diagram, in the master parts catalog at the dealership and under the dash for the power windows. >I have owned Camaros since before you were even born. >I've rebuilt many from the ground up. And no doubt they were hack jobs ... first class rebuilds, south of the Mason Dixon line. I'm Right, Ur WRONG! Go back to SPAMMING your website! Signature_________________________________________________________________ Dennis Smith -1971 Trans Am - 455 H.O. - M21 4speed - Cameo white/blue stripe- -1973 Trans Am - 455 - TH400 auto - Buccaneer red- -1984 Trans Am - 5.0 L - TH700R4 auto - Royal blue/silver aero- _________________________________________________________________ > that is a CIRCUIT BREAKER > no relays in the door locks or window circuits [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > a jealous little geek punk like you who hasn't even begun to shave can just > go back to reading your nursery rhymes and leave us big kids alone. I was born in 1974. So you owned a camaro from September of 66 (1967 model release) to November of 74, or somewhere in that year range? Wow Big Deal, so did over 500,000 other people! I have restored my fair share of cars. I work on cars every day for my living, my hobby, and my kicks. I can take boxes and build you a compleate car from the contents. Big Whoop. Yet even with all my knowledge I still consult a Factory Service Manuial for correct info. Go yell at the idiots at AutoZone, your ranting might impress some lower then human wanna-be counter dweebs. Charles as does my 77 > My 78 had a small silver 30 amp relay in the same area as the fuse > block..... [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >> Where is BigJFig when you need him? >> Charles > actually I'm right is right....went to the dealership the relays were not > part of the cars in 80, 77 etc yes perhaps, the window motors have relays > built in and are wired direct...the problem I had was when I bolted the > seats down I pinched a wire.....so now all is good First off. There should not be ANY wiring on the window circuit that runs under the seats. It will be in the dash, running thru to the doors. If you have counsel mounted switches, the wiring runs under the counsel. Second a Relay is a Switch. It is so the switch gear and cuits in the car only need to handle lower power, and the relay when sent a signal from the low power side will switch the high power side. I doubt the swithes in your 1980 can handle 45 AMPS. The lack of relays installed when adding circuits for power accessiories to cars is how people end up with wiring fires, melted down switches, and blown fuses. Charles > First off. There should not be ANY wiring on the window circuit that >runs under the seats. It will be in the dash, running thru to the doors. >If you have counsel mounted switches, the wiring runs under the counsel. Charles, on a 2nd-gen the wiring for the console switch does indeed run under the carpet and under the drivers seat. The wiring starts at the kick panel, goes in a channel under the polished "Body By Fisher" trim, through an opening next to the drivers seat and over to the console. There are actually clips on the floor board to secure the wiring. 3rd-gens are also the same way but are done a little more safely by running the wiring through a plastic conduit over to the console. Signature_________________________________________________________________ Dennis Smith -1971 Trans Am - 455 H.O. - M21 4speed - Cameo white/blue stripe- -1973 Trans Am - 455 - TH400 auto - Buccaneer red- -1984 Trans Am - 5.0 L - TH700R4 auto - Royal blue/silver aero- _________________________________________________________________ >> First off. There should not be ANY wiring on the window circuit that >>runs under the seats. It will be in the dash, running thru to the doors. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > 3rd-gens are also the same way but are done a little more safely by running the > wiring through a plastic conduit over to the console. Dennis, If it were my car we were discussing I would reroute the wiring. I do not like to have wires where if the worst happens (rain water) finds it way in, it will soak the wiring. On any generation the floorpans are where water will collect, and eventially cause a corried wire (Remember I live in Ohio where rust & dead seals thrive). Charles and I live in Ontario....and the wires were fine both in my 77 and 80, it was my mistake not watching where things went..... Man this is nuts all I asked was a simple question cause my 77 has relays under the dash...the 80 does not.... Don't just guess cause you "Think" you are an expert.....and then beat the crap out of anyone else who offers an opinion... Man O man Oh yes BTW corried is spell Corroded >>> First off. There should not be ANY wiring on the window circuit >>> that runs under the seats. It will be in the dash, running thru to the [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > in Ohio where rust & dead seals thrive). > Charles >Don't just guess cause you "Think" you are an expert.....and then beat the >crap out of anyone else who offers an opinion... Things would have went better had "I'm Right" not chimed in with his abusive and unlikable attitude. He has been a problem in this newsgroup and other auto related groups for a few years now. He typically belittles everyone and gives harsh comments on even the simplest of questions. He is also constantly plugging his Bought4TooMuch website. A search of "I'm Right" on Google Groups will show you what type of person he is. Signature_________________________________________________________________ Dennis Smith -1971 Trans Am - 455 H.O. - M21 4speed - Cameo white/blue stripe- -1973 Trans Am - 455 - TH400 auto - Buccaneer red- -1984 Trans Am - 5.0 L - TH700R4 auto - Royal blue/silver aero- _________________________________________________________________ and how am I to know that? So a guy like me who had a question, legit for this group, had to put up with this? Think about that for a moment..... No matter how you cut it....he was right.... Right? >>Don't just guess cause you "Think" you are an expert.....and then beat the >>crap out of anyone else who offers an opinion... [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > he > is. >>Don't just guess cause you "Think" you are an expert.....and then beat the >>crap out of anyone else who offers an opinion... [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > A search of "I'm Right" on Google Groups will show you what type of person he > is. Dennis Anymore people just don't care. Some moron goes ranting, and they side with them because some idiot countman doesn't know what the f.ck he's talking about. This is why people leave the groups, and finding the advice one needs gets so hard. Charles Dennis the Menace perhaps? There isn't any power window relays. please learn to live with that. You may impress the girly-boys at the Sonic or autozones with the 4 foot tall eractor set spoilers on the trunks of their 4 door, tinted windowed, fart pipe equipped boom boom stereo haulers. And so I do sell quality merchandise at far better prices than what some huge retailers do like jc whitney, yahoo or ebay stores. And NO the stereos are not at bargain prices and Never will be. There are too many importers selling them at what they cost me to buy them. But you get no warranty with there products. No one offers a better cruise for less. And we have connections with most all AC manufacturers. As well as Electric-Life windows and locks. So I do say go to www.bought4less.com and LOOK. maybe someone will see what they want at the price they like. No one is FORCING anyone to visit there. Its not a pop-up or pop-under or ever been spammed in email. So grow up, and get a life. > >Don't just guess cause you "Think" you are an expert.....and then beat the > >crap out of anyone else who offers an opinion... [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > A search of "I'm Right" on Google Groups will show you what type of person he > is. man guys I am sorry all these experts...drives me nuts....all I did was replace the carpet, the wires were there......NEVER WILL I ASK ANOTHER QUESTION I'm Right you were right....my GM dealer confirmed this....any protections are built into the motors, earlier models had the relay.... >> First off. There should not be ANY wiring on the window circuit >> that [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > running the > wiring through a plastic conduit over to the console. its was the wires that ran to the power window switches... and there are no relays..... The wires ran down the side of the driver side of the car, under the wire covers, crossing under the seats to the console. I am.........REALLY SORRY I ASKED THIS QUESTION IN HERE...................... >> actually I'm right is right....went to the dealership the relays were not >> part of the cars in 80, 77 etc yes perhaps, the window motors have relays [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Charles >its was the wires that ran to the power window switches... > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >I am.........REALLY SORRY I ASKED THIS QUESTION IN >HERE...................... Not for nothing but this is only a discussion board. Why should you be sorry or get upset at what someone posted? This is a great thread for me, arguements aside, I found out that some gen 2 cars use relays for the windows and some don't. Of course the 2nd gen cars that I owned didn't have relays at all. Mine used bicepwristticulators :-) ...Ron -- 68' Camaro RS 88' Firebird Formula 00' Mustang GT Vert I am done here..... will delete the link and advise people in my clubs not to come here... >>its was the wires that ran to the power window switches... >> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > 88' Firebird Formula > 00' Mustang GT Vert >I am done here..... > >will delete the link and advise people in my clubs not to come here... That's fine. If you can't take a little critisism then you most likely don't belong in any group to begin with. And just so you know, you really, really, really, hurt my feelings with the childish little display of... " I'm sick of you and I'll never come back to your group ever". A real man/woman (which are you?) wouldn't have bothered even posting, they would have just left and advised others not to come here. ...Ron -- 68' Camaro RS 88' Firebird Formula 00' Mustang GT Vert considering the fact that your email address is HIGHLY ILLEGAL Anyone spelling CAMARO with an E in it should be stuffed up a mustangs muffler. > I am done here..... > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > 88' Firebird Formula > > 00' Mustang GT Vert >considering the fact that your email address is HIGHLY ILLEGAL > >Anyone spelling CAMARO with an E in it should be stuffed up a mustangs >muffler. Ya, whatever. Do you think that you are the first to have noticed this? I used to use the incorrect spelling as my sig. Do a search in the newsgroups and you'll find out what it's all about. ...Ron -- 68' Camaro RS 88' Firebird Formula 00' Mustang GT Vert hmm.. you too? And here I thought I was the only one with bicepwristticulators. :) -Geno 1985 Blue Camaro 2.8L auto w/T-tops aka "Tazmaro" 1988 Blue Firebird Formula 5.0L auto w/T-tops 1985 Brown Firebird 5.7L (360) 5-speed NO T-tops Still looking for an '82-'84 T/A w/T-tops! >hmm.. you too? And here I thought I was the only one with >bicepwristticulators. :) I'm sure there are others, they just won't admit it. Although the original owners of my 68' opted for power windows, very too neet. Not many too be seen out at car shows. ...Ron >-Geno >1985 Blue Camaro 2.8L auto w/T-tops aka "Tazmaro" >1988 Blue Firebird Formula 5.0L auto w/T-tops >1985 Brown Firebird 5.7L (360) 5-speed NO T-tops >Still looking for an '82-'84 T/A w/T-tops! -- 68' Camaro RS 88' Firebird Formula 00' Mustang GT Vert Don't get too worked up.... this is a good resource for our cars. I've been here for about 5 years and have learned a lot. Here as well as just about anywhere you go you will find people that like to hear (see) themselves talk and/or start arguments just for the hell of it. You just have to get through some of the crap before you get to an answer. But don't let this instance push you away from the group. -Geno 1985 Blue Camaro 2.8L auto w/T-tops aka "Tazmaro" 1988 Blue Firebird Formula 5.0L auto w/T-tops 1985 Brown Firebird 5.7L (360) 5-speed NO T-tops Still looking for an '82-'84 T/A w/T-tops! > Don't get too worked up.... this is a good resource for our cars. I've > been here for about 5 years and have learned a lot. Here as well as just [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > 1985 Brown Firebird 5.7L (360) 5-speed NO T-tops > Still looking for an '82-'84 T/A w/T-tops! Unfortunately the group has gone quite a bit downhill in the 5+ years I have been in here. Googs, bottlebob and others who gave good advice and information have all gone. There are still a few around, but the amount of useful information has dropped drastically. And from what I can see, this is not limited to just this group, but applies to much of the non-binary portion of the newsgroups. SignatureCy Welch Senior Programmer MetSYS Inc http://www.metsysinc.com >> Don't get too worked up.... this is a good resource for our cars. >> I've been here for about 5 years and have learned a lot. Here as [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > from what I can see, this is not limited to just this group, but > applies to much of the non-binary portion of the newsgroups. Sad but true. One thing that's caused this other than spam is the proliferation of message boards that depend on Usenet for thier content. |
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