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Car Forum / Pontiac / Pontiac Firebird / December 2005

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Pinks, Gasoline, Abiotic Petroleum , and Titan

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Jimmy - 12 Dec 2005 04:36 GMT
So I'm sitting here watching Pinks on the Speed channel, checking out an
 e-mail I got with a link from WorldNet Daily (many times know as
Wingnut Daily) about abiotic oil. Oil not from ancient plants and
dinosaurs. More like like ancient synthetic oil!

First off to make a long story short, the kid on Pinks WON the race with
his big block 1st gen camaro, and gave back an 85 Monet Carlo to a real
smooth talker, running a big block, NO2 and what we NY'ers call a good
line of bullshit. I didn't the Camaro kid would win. He was a true
sportsman.

The OTHER interesting thing; boring science, yet CRUCIAL for the running
of *my* Camaro and Mustang is the continuity of cheap and availible
petroleum. In particular gasoline.

There is a theory that petroleum "fossil fuels" are NOT biological in
origin. In other words, the gas in my tanks ain't from dinosaurs. Of
course this doesn't sit well with many of todays petroleum
engineers/geologists (To RAMFM folks IIRC, TtT was/is a petroleum
engineer - where's he been?)  :-)

Most scientsits say that the origin of methane is mostly biological.
This months "Nature" says the methane that SATURATES Saturns moon Titan
is NON-BIOLOGIAL. Or *ABIOTIC*. Again to keep the post short, you can read:

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v438/n7069/pdf/nature04122.pdf

Page 4 (of 6) paragraphs 3 & 4.

What does this mean for petroleum? The supposed nutjobs saying todays
gasoline, diesel, petroleum derivatives MAY NOT have biological origins
may be right and the accepted theory that all this oil, gas methane etc
came from rotting plants, dinosaurs, Old Yeller and Aunt Matilda.

Come to think of it, with all the driving, fixing, and changing oil I
do, that's gotta be a HELL of alot of dinosaurs simply to get my cars
rolling around. Perhaps todays petroleum engineers will revise their
theories? Perhaps abiotic petroleum is wrong. But I think petroleum and
its derivatives (plastics, asphalt, manufacuting) will be around a HELL
of alot longer than the "Peak Oil" folks think. Perhaps the earths gas
tank ain't on "E" by a long shot.
Michael Johnson, PE - 12 Dec 2005 17:50 GMT
> So I'm sitting here watching Pinks on the Speed channel, checking out an
>  e-mail I got with a link from WorldNet Daily (many times know as
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> of alot longer than the "Peak Oil" folks think. Perhaps the earths gas
> tank ain't on "E" by a long shot.

I never really bought into the idea that oil is just old festering dino
carcasses.  Think of how many it would take to make up one oil field and
did they all decide to drop over dead at very specific spots around the
planet.  Now I would buy into the idea it might be decayed plant
material.  The size of peat bogs and coal seams make plant originated
carbon deposits much more plausable.

If dinos are responsible for oil deposits then we need to take all the
road kill, fast food grease, human bodies etc. and bury it now so that
we can make crude oil a renewable resource just like trees.  Instead of
"soylent green" being edible maybe it will be combustible. :)
Z24PODS says... "Click Here" - 26 Dec 2005 21:32 GMT
>Instead of "soylent green" being edible maybe >it will be combustible.
:)

That was a good one. Very funny.!! :-)
 
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