Hello. Here is my situation. Opinions and advice solicited:
- I have a 2001 Z28 with an LS1 in it.
- Very recently the SES light came on.
- Car seems to run fine, no noticeable change.
- Had it scanned for codes at a parts store.
- Code thrown is P0430, Catalyst efficiency below threshold (bank 2).
I'll throw these in also for completeness but separate them because
they may run the risk of distracting from the real issue:
- Approximately a week or so prior to code coming on, I put the
proscribed amount of Sta-bil fuel stabilizer in the tank. I put it in
a quarter full tank then did a complete fill up to mix it as best as I
could. I sometimes do not drive the Z28 in the winter months much at
all and I was concerned about the fuel getting too old over the
winter. This is the 1st time I have used this product on this vehicle
but have used it in the past on other things. I have put a fresh 3/4
of a tank of fuel in since and have not added more Sta-bil. I have
been hoping the problem would go away but hasn't.
- Many months ago I needed to have an air pump check valve replaced
and I replaced both sides. No problems after doing so (until now).
- Ever since I have owned the car I have always thought the exhaust of
this car smelled a bit like, strangely enough, like the smell of
freshly fired ammunition. Whereas I haven't really thought that of
any other exhaust so much. Other exhaust has always hinted more to me
of burnt up gasoline (big surprise there).
I believe that my exhaust is configured in this way: exhaust for each
two banks of four cylinders is an exhaust manifold which leads to a
common catalytic converter with oxygen sensors for each bank before
hitting the catalytic converter and a sensor in common after the
converter.
My understanding of how this code might be generated is that the
computer will evaluate the catalyst efficiency by comparing the oxygen
sensor readings before the cat and after it. My "logic" therefore
dictates that a likely problem is a failing oxygen sensor in the
exhaust stream coming off bank 2. If the catalyst itself was actually
not working, wouldn't codes be thrown for both banks? If there were a
problem with the sensor for bank 1, wouldn't the code be thrown for
that bank? If the common oxygen sensor after the cat were bad,
wouldn't it think both banks were bad? Must the answer be
fouled/failing sensor in bank 2 exhaust stream? Am I completely
missing something? Thoughts? I am tempted to just go and buy a new
sensor (or set of them) and install but before I do I would value the
advice of some of you so I don't waste any more money or time than I
have to.
lab~rat >:-) - 23 Feb 2006 18:02 GMT
>Hello. Here is my situation. Opinions and advice solicited:
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>advice of some of you so I don't waste any more money or time than I
>have to.
I recently had the same code on my '00 SS. A friend of mine is a
mechanic, and he reset the code. He told me that if it was his car,
he'd just drive it for a while and see if it throws the code again.
So far it hasn't, and that was a month ago. I'd say it might be worth
a try before replacing the cat or o2 sensor. I'll add that I'm in
Florida and we have no emissions testing, so that wasn't a factor in
my decision...
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lab~rat >:-)
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SgtSilicon - 23 Feb 2006 20:59 GMT
Thanks for the input. Advance Auto wouldn't clear the code for me.
The guy said the company doesn't want to be liable for blah blah. I
said I own the car and give my permission to clear the code from it.
Said he didn't want to lose his job.
So I guess I need to rent or buy a scanner so I can clear the code.
Any thoughts there?
>I recently had the same code on my '00 SS. A friend of mine is a
>mechanic, and he reset the code. He told me that if it was his car,
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>Florida and we have no emissions testing, so that wasn't a factor in
>my decision...
lab~rat >:-) - 23 Feb 2006 21:28 GMT
>Thanks for the input. Advance Auto wouldn't clear the code for me.
>The guy said the company doesn't want to be liable for blah blah. I
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>
>Any thoughts there?
Well, if you lived in Florida I'd tell ya to go see my friend... ;)
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dle - 23 Feb 2006 23:54 GMT
If there is some place that will allow you to do rent one that would be a
good route to go. I bought one and carry it with my in the car. Never know
when its a serious error that will pop up. That way at least you know you
can or cannot drive it home. Whatever you do, don't pull power from the PCM
if you can. That will force it into a 'relearn' mode. Clear it through a
scanner. If the error is still present in the car (bad part, etc.) the code
should be thrown again within 30 cycles.
> Thanks for the input. Advance Auto wouldn't clear the code for me.
> The guy said the company doesn't want to be liable for blah blah. I
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>>Florida and we have no emissions testing, so that wasn't a factor in
>>my decision...
Gary - KQ6RT - 26 Feb 2006 05:57 GMT
Your car should have a separate cat for each bank of cylinders. The bank 2
cat will be the one under the hump in the floor on the passenger side. The
bank 1 cat will probably be attached directly to the bottom of the manifold
on the drivers side. Code P0430 would indicate a bad cat, but it wouldn't
hurt to try just clearing the code to see what happens. You would be
supprised how often you can clear a code and they don't come back for a long
time.
Gary
> Hello. Here is my situation. Opinions and advice solicited:
>
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> advice of some of you so I don't waste any more money or time than I
> have to.
SgtSilicon - 26 Feb 2006 15:55 GMT
Hi. I cleared the code. It hasn't come back yet after about 6 trips
in the car. Do you suppose that it was just a burp or is something
starting to get marginal?
>Your car should have a separate cat for each bank of cylinders. The bank 2
>cat will be the one under the hump in the floor on the passenger side. The
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>> advice of some of you so I don't waste any more money or time than I
>> have to.
Steve W. - 27 Feb 2006 02:20 GMT
Could have been the Sta-Bil just causing a hic-up when the sensor saw it
the first time. Now that it has thinned out it may be fine. Seen
stranger things happen.

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Near Cooperstown, New York
> Hi. I cleared the code. It hasn't come back yet after about 6 trips
> in the car. Do you suppose that it was just a burp or is something
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> >> advice of some of you so I don't waste any more money or time than I
> >> have to.
Gary - KQ6RT - 27 Feb 2006 22:02 GMT
That's entirely possible. I would deffinately wait and see if it sets the
code again before I went out and spent the money to buy a new cat.
Gary
> Could have been the Sta-Bil just causing a hic-up when the sensor saw it
> the first time. Now that it has thinned out it may be fine. Seen
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SgtSilicon - 28 Feb 2006 02:42 GMT
So far still so good!
>That's entirely possible. I would deffinately wait and see if it sets the
>code again before I went out and spent the money to buy a new cat.
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