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Car Forum / Pontiac / Pontiac Firebird / April 2004

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Swap a 3.4 v6 to a Lt1 v8

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Jp - 14 Mar 2004 16:49 GMT
I want to do a swap in my 95 camaro from the 3.4 to the Lt1, how much
changing over is there to do? please help........thanks j.p.  
Bigjfig - 15 Mar 2004 12:53 GMT
>Subject: Swap a 3.4 v6 to a Lt1 v8
>From: jp231980@webtv.net  (Jp)
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>I want to do a swap in my 95 camaro from the 3.4 to the Lt1, how much
>changing over is there to do? please help........thanks j.p.  

New engine, transmission, likely a strengthened rear end. New brakes, cooling
system, suspension, etc, etc, etc, etc.

Cheaper to sell it and buy an LT1 equipped vehicle. Then, start with that
platform and hop it up.

Joe--ASE Certified Parts Specialist & 10th Ann.Club Tech Director
'80 Carousel Red Turbo T/A, 26k orig.
'79 "Y89" 400/4 speed 10th Ann. T/A, 57k orig
'84 Olds 88 Royale Bgm 2 dr, 307 "Rocket" (lol), 141k and still going....
'80 T/A project car...
*CBHVAC* - 18 Mar 2004 04:05 GMT
> >Subject: Swap a 3.4 v6 to a Lt1 v8
> >From: jp231980@webtv.net  (Jp)
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Cheaper to sell it and buy an LT1 equipped vehicle. Then, start with that
> platform and hop it up.

Somewhere in Google, we have gone over this before, time and time again, and
Joes right...its a waste...no matter how much you like the car...unless you
just have a few grand laying around to burn.

> Joe--ASE Certified Parts Specialist & 10th Ann.Club Tech Director
> '80 Carousel Red Turbo T/A, 26k orig.
> '79 "Y89" 400/4 speed 10th Ann. T/A, 57k orig
> '84 Olds 88 Royale Bgm 2 dr, 307 "Rocket" (lol), 141k and still going....
> '80 T/A project car...
Murray - 18 Mar 2004 10:17 GMT
Or unless you live in Australia :-(

>>>Subject: Swap a 3.4 v6 to a Lt1 v8
>>>From: jp231980@webtv.net  (Jp)
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>>'84 Olds 88 Royale Bgm 2 dr, 307 "Rocket" (lol), 141k and still going....
>>'80 T/A project car...
*CBHVAC* - 18 Mar 2004 13:56 GMT
> Or unless you live in Australia :-(

Ahh..then you do what Gary did...:)

You go to CA and ship one back...and I think the day we sat down and talked
about it, it was still cheaper for him to do that, and he lives near SW...

> >>>Subject: Swap a 3.4 v6 to a Lt1 v8
> >>>From: jp231980@webtv.net  (Jp)
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> >>'84 Olds 88 Royale Bgm 2 dr, 307 "Rocket" (lol), 141k and still going....
> >>'80 T/A project car...
Murray - 19 Mar 2004 04:04 GMT
Sounds good until you take into account the cost
of left to right hand steering conversion (mandatory)
at something like $10-15K US. Then there is the little bit of
duty and sales tax (yup) and shipping. In round numbers
all totals maybe $20k US plus? Don't forget I have to sell
my 3.4L fust and voyage to dear ol Ca.

It really would be simpler to swap. I believe.
Or supercharge

Cheers
Murray

PS Garry had his conversion done by 'us'. :-)

>>Or unless you live in Australia :-(
>
> Ahh..then you do what Gary did...:)
>
> You go to CA and ship one back...and I think the day we sat down and talked
> about it, it was still cheaper for him to do that, and he lives near SW...
*CBHVAC* - 19 Mar 2004 04:44 GMT
> Sounds good until you take into account the cost
> of left to right hand steering conversion (mandatory)
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> PS Garry had his conversion done by 'us'. :-)

Whups...I left out the extra R in Garry...hope he didnt notice..:-)

I STILL think that given the fact that a proper conversion will require a
new driveline, front suspension, including brakes, and possibly tires, since
here in the states they came with 16s, and depending on how the unit was
speed limited, you would find either H, or Z rated tires..you will be close
to the same.
Granted, I was looking for parts to be shipped there, since I dont know how
your local Holden dealer is on ordering and getting F-body parts down there.
Lets see...you also will need a new engine controller harness, new ECM, and
such...and DRB2 isnt a change out and all works fine deal...
Oh..and IF you are going to get one here in the States, I dont know if
California is the place I would look...ship from San Diego perhaps...but I
would look in Arizona, New Mexico...Nevada even, or here on the east coast,
before I would buy a CA car. Emission parts being what they are there, can
make a normally simple part, a real bugger to find if its a CA equipped
ride.

> >>Or unless you live in Australia :-(
> >
> > Ahh..then you do what Gary did...:)
> >
> > You go to CA and ship one back...and I think the day we sat down and talked
> > about it, it was still cheaper for him to do that, and he lives near SW...
Murray - 20 Mar 2004 08:29 GMT
>>Sounds good until you take into account the cost
>>of left to right hand steering conversion (mandatory)
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> make a normally simple part, a real bugger to find if its a CA equipped
> ride.

Would be true if I intended to buy a v8 in the US.
I was thinking more of a local Holden engine/auto
with the 'brains' from a local wrecker. They used them
in the top range models.
My 3.4 came new from Georgia (Savanna)via a roll on/roll off.
The wheels are alloy (Factory) and they are shod with
suitable tyres.
Garry is quite convinced the v8 rides more harshly on
our 'roads' and the v6 is bad enough! :-(
Maybe I'd leave the suspension to the experts but
all one is looking at is 100kg more at the front.
The speed sensor is the same (2500/km v. 4000/mi)
Limiting is something one removes with a programmer,
No? If it was ever there.
It would be nice to have the engine mounts lean
the other way and make room for the  power steering etc!
Body parts are the biggest headache whichever model one has.
The only local part is a windscreen because one had to
be made here for my car during conversion. He tried
to lever the wipers off. :-(

As I intimated - there is always a blower could be added
down that 'hole' where to two extra pots live in a v8.
There is room in a v6.
Day dreams .......  :-)

Cheers
Murray
ghz28 - 26 Apr 2004 09:44 GMT
Hello you two, just back from a trip to the US, tried to contact you before
I left Steve but got no answer from any of the info I had on you. Was in
your area for a couple of days, down around Raleigh in fact, and back there
in October with Robyn.

Hi Murray, still got those lights here for you, now that I am back must get
over and see you.

I think it would be a mammoth task to put a v8 in Murray, there are plenty
of V8 ones around for sale these days, and not bringing what they used to
either, hope that changes.

Steve, 99% chance we will be going to the Bristol Bash at the end of October
this year, so keep in touch and get your arse down there, leave the a.s at
home......

Seeya

Garry

> >>Sounds good until you take into account the cost
> >>of left to right hand steering conversion (mandatory)
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> Cheers
> Murray
 
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