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Car Forum / Pontiac / Pontiac Firebird / April 2004WS6 vs Ram Air?
What exactly is the WS6 package comprised of? If the car is said to have Ram air does that mean it is a WS6 . (1999-2002 firebirds) . I am trying to sort out several car ads and I want to get a WS6 but one ad for a 2001 just says it has Ram air so I am trying to figure out what this entails. Thanks in advance Richard > What exactly is the WS6 package comprised of? If the car is said to have Ram > air does that mean it is a WS6 . [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Richard The WS6 package includes several other items besides simply R/A. For instance, 17x9.5 (or is it 17.9) rims, a beefier rear diff (TorSen diff. dunno 'bout the control arms,) suspension, and a nice little WS-6 logo. I'm sure there's something else I'm missing, but that's what I can think of off the top of my head. Mmm...I think final gearing is 3.73 too. Martin '01 Formula - MTI Air Box Lid, K&N Filter, Hurst-6, SLP Cold Air Induction & Smooth Intake Bellow Corsa Catback w/Premium Tips '83 V45 Magna I don't think they went that steep with the gearing. It's my understanding that its in the lower numerical section of the 3's 3.23 maybe All aboard the Yankee express, next stop October..... > I don't think they went that steep with the gearing. It's my understanding that > its in the lower numerical section of the 3's 3.23 maybe > > All aboard the Yankee express, next stop October..... Hey, just found some time to revisit this thread. I'm pretty sure the WS6 package from 2000+ had a final gearing of 3.73. I know that my formula has a 3.43 final gearing. I'd have liked the 3.73 option, but I just couldn't justify the extra cost for the TA (No WS6 Formula in 2001) especially since I didn't like the batwing spoiler (it's grown on me........a little) and I don't like the WS6 hood. Sure it's aggressive as hell, but I prefer the firehawk hood or suncoast's raptor hood. (I digress) True, I could have purchased a 3.73 option, but w/o the beefier TorSen diff and an axle that can handle the torque, it seemed kind of silly. As it is, I'm pushing the specs of my stock drive shaft and what the transmission will handle. I might be able to squeak in an exhaust header upgrade w/o needing to change tranny, shaft, and rear diff, but that's about it. (Again, I digress). There was also a 4.10 option, but like hell am I putting that on my car. If I wanted gas mileage that shitty, I'd just buy a 7L stroker. Plus, I'm not taking my car to the strip every weekend, so a 3.73 or 4.10 would have been silly. Martin '01 Formula - MTI Air Box Lid, K&N Filter, Hurst-6, SLP Cold Air Induction & Smooth Intake Bellow Corsa Catback w/Premium Tips '83 V45 Magna Without getting technical, while both cars are catogorized by me as kick a.s cars, the WS6 will get your blood rushing a lot faster. Heck, the mere appearance of that car gets my blood rushing. :) Take Care Ron >What exactly is the WS6 package comprised of? If the car is said to have Ram >air does that mean it is a WS6 . [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Richard Try to get the VIN (or look at it and get the VIN). I'd make sure it's a WS6, I wouldn't want any aftermarket "ram-air" job. > What exactly is the WS6 package comprised of? If the car is said to have Ram > air does that mean it is a WS6 . [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Richard The Ram Air package is the next step-up on the WS6. The WS6 is basically a factory upgade performance suspension and rear end. RamAir carries the performance further forcing the air through the manifold and heads like a supercharger. I own a 2000 convertable T/A with the WS6 RamAir package. Very nice!!! > What exactly is the WS6 package comprised of? If the car is said to have Ram > air does that mean it is a WS6 . [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Richard > The Ram Air package is the next step-up on the WS6. The WS6 is basically a > factory upgade performance suspension and rear end. RamAir carries the > performance further forcing the air through the manifold and heads like a > supercharger. I own a 2000 convertable T/A with the WS6 RamAir package. Very > nice!!! The WS6 is the Ram Air package. You're probably thinking of the Firehawk package. Here's the GM 4 page brochure: http://www.rollingviolation.com/pdf/funstuff/2001firebird.pdf From the ad: ram air hood, special suspension tuning, dual outlet polished exhaust, power steering cooler, 17" wheels and 275/40 tires. (with a warning you can't use snow chains with 'em...) I think the Hurst shifter came standard as well... In 2000 you could get a WS6 Formula, but in 2001 it was only a WS6 Trans Am. I think in 2002 you could get the WS6 formulas again. Ray (who owns a 2001 Trans Am WS6/Ram Air) >> The Ram Air package is the next step-up on the WS6. The WS6 is >> basically a [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Ray > (who owns a 2001 Trans Am WS6/Ram Air) 100% correct sir. No 2001 WS6 Formula. =( Martin '01 Formula - MTI Air Box Lid, K&N Filter, Hurst-6, SLP Cold Air Induction & Smooth Intake Bellow Corsa Catback w/Premium Tips '83 V45 Magna I think I will rephrase my question . I am looking at a 2001 convertible that is advertised as Ram Air. Does this also mean it is a WS6 . The car is about a 10 hour drive for me to look at and I am about a month away from having enough money to buy it. I am trying to get my facts sorted out before I look as their is also a 2002 WS6 near the convertible. Both have similar amount of Km and are very close in price.(both look awesome) Thanks in advance Richard > The Ram Air package is the next step-up on the WS6. The WS6 is basically a > factory upgade performance suspension and rear end. RamAir carries the > performance further forcing the air through the manifold and heads like a > supercharger. I own a 2000 convertable T/A with the WS6 RamAir package. Very > nice!!! > I think I will rephrase my question . I am looking at a 2001 convertible > that is advertised as Ram Air. Does this also mean it is a WS6 . The car is [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Richard If it's a real one, the WS6 _IS_ the ram air. To know 99% for sure, get the sticker off the door with the RPO codes - if there's a WS6, it's a WS6. If not, it's a fake. (probably just the hood.) To know 99.99% for sure, visit your local pontiac dealer with the VIN. Enjoy! :) I would ask specifically if it is a WS6. All WS6's have a "ram air" hood (it is written on the hood scoops). Though, I would think if it was a WS6, they would advertise is as such. Try www.LS1tech.com for more info! Jester, you should do a little more research before you say such inaccuracies. If you think your WS6 hood is working like a supercharger, you are sadly mistaken. It doesnt even seal against the airbox. SOMZ28 > I think I will rephrase my question . I am looking at a 2001 convertible > that is advertised as Ram Air. Does this also mean it is a WS6 . The car is [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Very > > nice!!! Supposedly the inlet aperture on the front of the Ws6 airbox was taller than the standard LS1 aperture. With the hood air inlet baffles in place, the "ram" air rams into the engine compartment behind the airbox inlet aperture. With the baffles removed and some gaskets it could conceivably ram some air into the engine as opposed to onto the engine. Drive something else when it rains tho... >I would ask specifically if it is a WS6. All WS6's have a "ram air" hood >(it is written on the hood scoops). Though, I would think if it was a WS6, [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >> Very >> > nice!!! ~~~~~~ Bait for spammers: root@localhost postmaster@localhost admin@localhost abuse@localhost postmaster@[127.0.0.1] uce@ftc.gov ~~~~~~ Remove "spamless" to email me. > Supposedly the inlet aperture on the front of the Ws6 airbox was taller > than the standard LS1 aperture. > With the hood air inlet baffles in place, the "ram" air rams into the engine > compartment behind the airbox inlet aperture. With the baffles removed > and some gaskets it could conceivably ram some air into the engine as > opposed to onto the engine. Drive something else when it rains tho... The inlet IS taller on a WS6. They also have aftermarket kits with gaskets to do just that... I don't drive mine in the snow, but it has been driven in the rain so spending $250+ for maybe a tenth in the quarter and not being able to drive it in the rain.... Yes, the airbox sits higher on the WS6, though most WS6 owner dont seal the hood to the opening, so they are not getting the full effect of the ram air. Just put an aftermarket lid (they are all pretty much the same) on it and be done with it. > > Supposedly the inlet aperture on the front of the Ws6 airbox was taller > > than the standard LS1 aperture. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > been driven in the rain so spending $250+ for maybe a tenth in the > quarter and not being able to drive it in the rain.... > Yes, the airbox sits higher on the WS6, though most WS6 owner dont seal the > hood to the opening, so they are not getting the full effect of the ram air. > Just put an aftermarket lid (they are all pretty much the same) on it and be > done with it. done. :) with a lid & drag radials it goes 13.11. with a 100 shot it'll do a 12.18 this year I'm going for 12's off the spray and 12 flat on it... I can't talk the wife into a cage... and I bought a dirt track camaro so I'll be busy with that this year... "This is in response to my inaccurancy". I don't know about your Ram Air but my unit comes with a flexable air deflector in the hood that flex at speeds above 50 or 60mph forcing air directly into(up into ) the breather element. Maybe you should check with Pontiac? The flexable deflector acts like a "flex fan" this is where your direct flow or seal comes from. Jester > I would ask specifically if it is a WS6. All WS6's have a "ram air" hood > (it is written on the hood scoops). Though, I would think if it was a WS6, [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Very > > > nice!!! |
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