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94 LT1 Opti spark.  What should the rotor look like?

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Steve - 24 May 2004 14:54 GMT
I have a 94 Z28 with an opti spark distributor.  I had it replaced
about 6 months ago along with the coil, ecm, wires, and plugs.
Recently, it started missing at low rpms.  I changed the plugs and
wires (2ond time) and it still misses.

I now have the distributor off and the rotor looks terrible.  No
contamination, but it doesn't look like it is not making contact with
the electrodes in the dist cap.  Spark by osmosis??

In all my experience with traditional ignition systems the rotor
always contacts the electrodes, if not, replace the cap and rotor.

Is the optispark any different?  Should it be this way?

I would think if it is not making contact, it wouldn't run at all.

Steve...
Brian - 25 May 2004 12:39 GMT
The rotor NEVER should contact the "electrodes" on the cap.  there is
supposed to be a small air gap between the contacts on the cap and the rotor
the spark jumps this gap the same way it jumps the gap on a spark plug.
check the rotor for signs of wear (wears like a plug too) but chances are it
needs em replaced.
The optispark unit is recommended to be changed as an assembly, but the cap
and rotor is available separately.
Brian

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> I have a 94 Z28 with an opti spark distributor.  I had it replaced
> about 6 months ago along with the coil, ecm, wires, and plugs.
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> Steve...
Tom - 25 May 2004 17:28 GMT
Check your water pump for leaks! This is a common problem. Coolant gets
into the dist.

>I have a 94 Z28 with an opti spark distributor.  I had it replaced
>about 6 months ago along with the coil, ecm, wires, and plugs.
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>Steve...
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Refinish King - 26 May 2004 04:04 GMT
In any rotating ignition system:

The rotor never contacts the pole on the distributor cap. In fact, there is
a way of measuring what's called: "The Rotor Gap" on the oscilloscope, to
see if all are equal.

My guess is that, the dexcool entered the distributor, and contaminated the
pickup coil or photo cell. Which ever they are using.

You can clean the inside with electronics cleaner. The rotor can be
electrolosysed by the Dexcool, and made to not conduct the spark across the
rotor gap as well.

So I would spray out the distributor with electronics cleaner spray, CRC
Brand is what I recommend. Then replace the rotor. Before you do anything,
inspect everything closely; for an orange/brownish residue. if there is any
trace of these colors. The water pump is definitely to blame for the
untimely corrosion of the rotor.

Refinish King

> Check your water pump for leaks! This is a common problem. Coolant gets
> into the dist.
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Bigjfig - 27 May 2004 02:35 GMT
>Subject: Re: 94 LT1 Opti spark.  What should the rotor look like?
>From: "Refinish King" noneofyourbusiness@mindyourbusiness.com
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>> >Steve...

Very good and accurate post from RK.

GM has had numerous problems with the water pump leaking on all these LT1 (5.7
vin P) vehicles.
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Steve - 27 May 2004 14:14 GMT
> >Subject: Re: 94 LT1 Opti spark.  What should the rotor look like?
> >From: "Refinish King" noneofyourbusiness@mindyourbusiness.com
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> >> >Steve...

> Very good and accurate post from RK.
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> '84 Olds 88 Royale Bgm 2 dr, 307 "Rocket" (lol), 141k and still going....
> '80 T/A project car...

Follow up...

There is no visible contamination.  I looks as if moisture got in
through the vent holes this winter.  Hot engine...cold damp garage.  
The water  pump is not leaking, it was just replaced.  Nothing was wet
in any way.  Just some corrosion on the rotor.  The optical disk was
bright and shiny.  I cleaned up the rotor and sealed the assembly.  No
change in performance, it still misses at low rpms no/low load.

My mechanic suggested a power flush of the fuel injectors.  It seems
to make sense, it's not a teeth jarring miss, more of a fart.  I'm
thinking that the injector spray is crappy.  I'll give that a try and
let you know.

Steve....
Refinish King - 28 May 2004 05:02 GMT
I would consider the moisture left a residual haze on the optical pickup.

I would still spray the optical pickup and the photocell, and also. Never
seal the vent holes!

This can lead to ionization inside the distributor cap, which at the very
least can cause a misfire and breaking up at higher RPM's, or at worse case.
Blow the distributor cap right off.

Every time there is a spark, there is metal consumption between the rotor
and the cap pole piece, which causes ionization of the ambient air in the
distributor, especially at the intense voltages the Optispark works at.

Reconsider plugging the vents please?

Refinish King

> > >Subject: Re: 94 LT1 Opti spark.  What should the rotor look like?
> > >From: "Refinish King" noneofyourbusiness@mindyourbusiness.com
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> Steve....
 
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