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Car Forum / Pontiac / Pontiac Firebird / June 2004FS: 1985 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am (Ottawa, Ont)
1985 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am. 148,200 km V8, 5-Speed, Performance Suspension, T-Roof, Repainted w/Decals, Alloy Wheels, Fogs, Spoiler, Power Windows/Locks, Aftermarket Stereo&Speakers, Tilt Wheel, Bra, Summer Car, E-test & Safety. Pic (taken this year): http://www.magma.ca/~warringt/ta.jpg Asking $4900. Phone: (613) 820-2475 (Ask for Bob) Email: warringt@magma.ca Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada > 1985 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am. > 148,200 km [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Asking $4900. Why is it that everyone assumes that everyone else KNOWS what country's currency is being talked about? Are you talking Canadian dollars or USA dollars? That would sure help in your quest to sell the car, don't ya think?  SignatureMr. Floppy > > 1985 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am. > > 148,200 km [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > dollars? That would sure help in your quest to sell the car, don't ya > think? Well since the header reads Ottawa, Ontario, this would lead me to believe CDN dollars > > > 1985 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am. > > > 148,200 km [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Well since the header reads Ottawa, Ontario, this would lead me to believe > CDN dollars No, it wasn't stated, so you cannot draw this conclusion. That's the point. This message doesn't only reach people in Canada. It reaches worldwide to whomever subscribes to this newsgroup with their news reader. Stating the currency that is wanted would allow people to figure out how many rubles, yen, dollars, pounds, etc., they need to buy his car. -- Mr. Floppy > > > > 1985 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am. > > > > 148,200 km [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > -- > Mr. Floppy The point I was making is that in his Message Title ""1985 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am (Ottawa, Ont)"" it says Ottawa Ontario so I would believe that a person in Canada is selling this item in the currency of his country unless otherwise stated, regardless of who subscribes to this group. I also wasn t saying that everyone would come to this conclusion.. only that it would be logical to myself to infer that. > > > > > 1985 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am. > > > > > 148,200 km [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > saying that everyone would come to this conclusion.. only that it would be > logical to myself to infer that. So the only logical conclusion in your mind is the only "correct" one as far as you're concerned. Hmm, and you don't even have all the facts. It is not wise to make an assumption such as you have. If you were to pursue this vehicle for purchase, I would be willing to wager that you would be asking the very question that I asked about what country's currency is stated. Tell me I am wrong. SignatureMr. Floppy > > > > > Why is it that everyone assumes that everyone else KNOWS what > > country's [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > the very question that I asked about what country's currency is stated. > Tell me I am wrong. OK .. Mr Floppy , you are wrong. I wouldnt need to ask what currency since I live in Canada and know that Ottawa is in Canada.. Just like if I were purchasing something from Charles , Big or others that live in the states, I would assume their choice of currency would be from where they live. As for not having all the facts, what other facts are there? The person lives in Canada and unless he is selling on Ebay, I would find it hard to believe he would sell in another currency other than that of his own country and if he was, most likely would indicate it as such. > > > > > Well since the header reads Ottawa, Ontario, this would lead me to > > > believe [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > OK .. Mr Floppy , you are wrong. I wouldnt need to ask what currency since I > live in Canada and know that Ottawa is in Canada. I'm sorry you live in Canada. Really, it's OK, you don't have to be ashamed. SignatureMr. Floppy > > > > 1985 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am. > > > > 148,200 km [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > -- > Mr. Floppy The point I was making is that in his Message Title ""1985 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am (Ottawa, Ont)"" it says Ottawa Ontario so I would believe that a person in Canada is selling this item in the currency of his country unless otherwise stated, regardless of who subscribes to this group. I also wasn t saying that everyone would come to this conclusion.. only that it would be logical to myself to infer that. > > > > 1985 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am. > > > > 148,200 km [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > -- > Mr. Floppy In the subject it says "Ottawa,Ont" in perentises. Which I would take as a hint to where the car is, and whatkind if currancy was being asked for it. Charles > > > > > 1985 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am. > > > > > 148,200 km [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > it. > Charles Thank you Charles , exactly my point > > No, it wasn't stated, so you cannot draw this conclusion. That's the > point. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > it. > Charles Chuck, thanks for poorly attempting to re-state what was already said. It is still an assumption. By the way the words you were attempting to use are "parenthesis" and "currency". Stay away from the big words and you will be OK. SignatureMr. Floppy > Chuck, thanks for poorly attempting to re-state what was already said. It > is still an assumption. By the way the words you were attempting to use are > "parenthesis" and "currency". Stay away from the big words and you will be > OK. I feel the need to ask a question... What currency would you assume it was in, with the info given, if you had to take a wild shot in the dark? It has a "$" sign which rules out pounds, yen, etc... If it were in NY it would be safe to assume it was US currency, would it not? This argument is rather silly but I am genuinely interested in where you're coming from on this. > > Chuck, thanks for poorly attempting to re-state what was already said. It > > is still an assumption. By the way the words you were attempting to use [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I feel the need to ask a question... What currency would you assume it was > in, with the info given, if you had to take a wild shot in the dark? That depends entirely on the intended audience. The assumption that it was only meant for Canadian readers is what I am laughing at here. If someone posts to a Usenet newsgroup it is a world wide posting. It isn't just for the country it is posted from. 3 little letters in the posting would have eliminated all doubt. USA or CDN. > It has a "$" sign which rules out pounds, yen, etc... If it were in NY it > would be safe to assume it was US currency, would it not? Again, not necessarily. If you have a world wide audience, then you need to state USA dollars. How many times have you seen it explicitly stated USA DOLLARS? I see it all the time. Why is that? > This argument is rather silly but I am genuinely interested in where you're > coming from on this. The argument I am making is that people assume things far too often in life and make mistakes by assuming. SignatureMr. Floppy > > > Chuck, thanks for poorly attempting to re-state what was already said. > It [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > The argument I am making is that people assume things far too often in life > and make mistakes by assuming. The only assumption being made is you saying it was intended only for a Cdn audience.. everyone else read that he was from Ottawa and could see that it would be in Cdn funds Otherwise it would have said different. As for your statement, yep I do agree people jump to conclusions far too quickly, just dont think that was the case here from the facts in evidence. > The only assumption being made is you saying it was intended only for a Cdn > audience.. everyone else read that he was from Ottawa and could see that it > would be in Cdn funds Otherwise it would have said different. I made no such statement. In fact, I said the exact opposite. I said it was posted to a world-wide audience. You're still assuming that it is CDN funds. Do you have a magical divining rod that tells you what text infers? I will ask the same question I did of SBlackfoot. Why do people who post ads from the USA state USA funds? So there is no question as to what funds are accepted. This guy left it open by stating dollars. I do business with people in Canada all the time. Do you think they leave it open to my interpretation for what country's currency is accepted? No. I would be happy to pay $50 Canadian for something rather than paying $50 US for it. > As for your statement, yep I do agree people jump to conclusions far too > quickly, just dont think that was the case here from the facts in evidence. Facts? Just because he is from Ottowa does not guarantee that he asked for Canadian dollars. The only way to settle this absolutely and permanently is to ask him. I am not interested in the vehicle, so I won't be contacting him. SignatureMr. Floppy > > The only assumption being made is you saying it was intended only for a > Cdn [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > to ask him. I am not interested in the vehicle, so I won't be contacting > him. Magical rod? Nope just common sense. And if you arent interested, then why bother jumping into this to start off with. Just like so many Usenet cops, you feel a need to stick your nose in where its not needed nor warranted. Exactly why Usenet is so cluttered with garbage, this time I just decided to add my garbage for a change. End of my posts in this , enjoy the day > > > The only assumption being made is you saying it was intended only for a > > Cdn [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Magical rod? Nope just common sense. And common sense says to make WAG assumptions? LOL! > And if you arent interested, then why bother jumping into this to start off > with. Just like so many Usenet cops, you feel a need to stick your nose in > where its not needed nor warranted. Exactly why Usenet is so cluttered with > garbage, this time I just decided to add my garbage for a change. End of my > posts in this , enjoy the day Well, well, well. Look at you. You're certainly the pot calling the kettle black, aren't you. I asked one simple question of the person who posted the advertisement for sale. Who blew it all out of proportion then later comes back calling ME the Usenet cop? You did. LOL!! How does asking what country's currency the guy is asking for make me a Usenet cop? ROFL! I guess the fact that you said "I just decided to add my garbage for a change" excuses you from acting like a dumbass, right? Let's see if you're really done or if you're just a liar like the rest of the people who say they are. SignatureMr. Floppy > Do you have a magical divining rod that tells you what text infers? > I will ask the same question I did of SBlackfoot. Why do people who post [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > interpretation for what country's currency is accepted? No. I would be > happy to pay $50 Canadian for something rather than paying $50 US for it. Actually I see postings on US-based messageboards all the time where people do not necessarily state US funds, although it is assumed and isn't questioned. Likewise of Canadian-based message boards. Now, a newsgroup isn't necessarily based upon a single country but I for one (and others it seems) do believe that a specification of location is a decent indication of funds. Common sense does seem to apply in this case. Besides, considering the amount of the currency in question does again point to Canadian funds or one stupidly overpriced car. That said, I'd find it hilarious if the vehicle in question was in fact in US funds. ;o) > Facts? Just because he is from Ottowa does not guarantee that he asked for > Canadian dollars. The only way to settle this absolutely and permanently is > to ask him. I am not interested in the vehicle, so I won't be contacting > him. A guarantee, no. A logical and safe assumption, definitely. Think about it. You're interested in the vehicle and travel to Ottawa in order to purchase. Would it be logical for the seller to expect anything other than Canadian funds? Likewaise however, I have no interest in the vehicle so I have no intentions of contacting the seller either. I really doubt that would solve anything anyway, since the debate would likely continue. OT: Since when is a Tiburon a sports car? I'm sick of that brunette in the commercial saying that it's better than other sportscars... > A guarantee, no. A logical and safe assumption, definitely. Think about it. > You're interested in the vehicle and travel to Ottawa in order to purchase. > Would it be logical for the seller to expect anything other than Canadian > funds? Likewaise however, I have no interest in the vehicle so I have no > intentions of contacting the seller either. I really doubt that would solve > anything anyway, since the debate would likely continue. The whole point I was making was about assumptions. People assume things far too often. Then when they run on an assumption and what they thought to be the truth turns out to be the opposite, they have nobody else to blame but themself. It is best to have all the information you possibly can before going off half cocked. Wouldn't you agree? > OT: Since when is a Tiburon a sports car? I'm sick of that brunette in the > commercial saying that it's better than other sportscars... Tiburon? Isn't that a POS Hyundai? Nothing Hyundai makes could ever be considered a sports car. Ever. Even if they say so. SignatureMr. Floppy > The whole point I was making was about assumptions. People assume things > far too often. Then when they run on an assumption and what they thought to > be the truth turns out to be the opposite, they have nobody else to blame > but themself. It is best to have all the information you possibly can > before going off half cocked. Wouldn't you agree? Yep, but this situation is hardled half-cocked. It's not like he left out required details of the vehicl's specs which wouldn't be safe assumptions. As I asked earlier, if the seller had been in NY would the same debate have broken out? I doubt it. Common sense does indeed apply. > > OT: Since when is a Tiburon a sports car? I'm sick of that brunette in the > > commercial saying that it's better than other sportscars... > > Tiburon? Isn't that a POS Hyundai? Nothing Hyundai makes could ever be > considered a sports car. Ever. Even if they say so. Yep, that's why that cute brunette in that commercial grates on my nerves... > > > No, it wasn't stated, so you cannot draw this conclusion. That's the > > point. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > "parenthesis" and "currency". Stay away from the big words and you will be > OK. It's Charles, not "Chuck". That's like me calling you "Flappy" instead of Floppy. You probably don't remember me, as I took a break from UseNet for a while. I was around this group long before you. As for my spelling, when I drink I tend to forget the spell check. Not to mention I either am on here when I first get up, or on my way to bed. So mistakes are more prone. Charles > > > > No, it wasn't stated, so you cannot draw this conclusion. That's the > > > point. [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > of Floppy. You probably don't remember me, as I took a break from UseNet > for a while. I was around this group long before you. When did you begin frequenting this group? I have been around for about 6 years now. Why do you assume that I am calling you a newbie? I never stated that I thought you were a newbie. Assumptions seem to be running rampant lately. You flipped me some sh.t, so I flipped it back. > As for my spelling, when I drink I tend to forget the spell check. Not > to mention I either am on here when I first get up, or on my way to bed. > So mistakes are more prone. May the spell checker have mercy on your liver. SignatureMr. Floppy > > > > > No, it wasn't stated, so you cannot draw this conclusion. That's > the [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > > May the spell checker have mercy on your liver. I started off in this newsgroups around 1994 or so. I got the group name from the "Rock-n-Roll Doctor's Z28 Web Page" Egads, I'm surprised my memory goes back that far. I was even at M.E.N.D. With Nick & Patrick G, Walt, and a list of other sedate people from here. I wasn't flipping you sh.t, just pointing out as someone who does business online, that even I would believe the type of currency to be Canadian. Charles > > > 1985 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am. > > > 148,200 km [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Well since the header reads Ottawa, Ontario, this would lead me to believe > CDN dollars Then either way, its overpriced...period. >> Asking $4900. > >Why is it that everyone assumes that everyone else KNOWS what country's >currency is being talked about? Are you talking Canadian dollars or USA >dollars? That would sure help in your quest to sell the car, don't ya >think? He's in Canada so it must be Monopoly funny money :-) Signature_________________________________________________________________ Dennis Smith -1971 Trans Am - 455 H.O. - M21 4speed - Cameo white/blue stripe- -1973 Trans Am - 455 - TH400 auto - Buccaneer red- -1984 Trans Am - 5.0 L - TH700R4 auto - Royal blue/silver aero- _________________________________________________________________ > > 1985 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am. > > 148,200 km [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > > > Pic (taken this year): http://www.magma.ca/~warringt/ta.jpg For all those interested, that would be $4900 Canadian, which is about $3500 US. > > > 1985 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am. > > > 148,200 km [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > > > For all those interested, that would be $4900 Canadian, which is about $3500 US. LOL > > > > 1985 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am. > > > > 148,200 km [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > LOL And there you have it. Nobody, including you, has to make the assumption any longer since the person who is selling the over-priced car has explicitly stated it was Canadian dollars. Had he stated this in the beginning this thread would have read more like "Jesus f.cking christ, that's over priced!" :-) SignatureMr. Floppy > > > > > 1985 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am. > > > > > 148,200 km [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > beginning this thread would have read more like "Jesus f.cking christ, > that's over priced!" :-) lol and on that note, we will agree totally. The part about being overpriced that is... not the assumption part lol, sorry had to. >> > > > 1985 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am. >> > > > 148,200 km [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >beginning this thread would have read more like "Jesus f.cking christ, >that's over priced!" :-) lol and on that note, we will agree totally. The part about being overpriced that is... not the assumption part lol, sorry had to > > > > > 1985 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am. > > > > > 148,200 km [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > beginning this thread would have read more like "Jesus f.cking christ, > that's over priced!" :-) Around here that would be about right for that car if: 1. It was on a dealers lot. 2. It was really clean. 3. It had an a 350 slipped in. I was bidding on a 1991 RS Camaro today in a Repo Auction. It had a 3.1 V6 with a Automatic. My last bid was $300, the car sold for $700. Dead, and no where near good shape. Charles > And there you have it. Nobody, including you, has to make the assumption > any longer since the person who is selling the over-priced car has > explicitly stated it was Canadian dollars. Had he stated this in the > beginning this thread would have read more like "Jesus f.cking christ, > that's over priced!" :-) Canadian funds... Who would've guessed that... ;o) |
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