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kmiller - 19 Jul 2004 03:24 GMT
One more question about my 77 Firebird.  It has the 350R engine, the
Olds 350.  I put an Edelbrock Performer-Plus cam in it.  It has a stock
turbo 350 and stock torque converter.

How fast should this engine idle with this cam?  At .050, the intake
lift is .280, exhaust is .295 at the cam.  At the valve, the lift is
.448 and .472.

I have it idling about 800 or 850 rpm but when I put it in reverse or
drive, it will only idle a few seconds then die.  I don't think I have
any vacuum leaks.  How should I set the idle on this car now with the
new cam?  The engine only had about 40 or 45 mins on it so it's still a
little tight, I'm sure.

Thanks,
Kerry
Finally making progress on the 77 Firebird!
kmiller - 19 Jul 2004 03:37 GMT
> One more question about my 77 Firebird.  It has the 350R engine, the
> Olds 350.  I put an Edelbrock Performer-Plus cam in it.  It has a stock
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> Kerry
> Finally making progress on the 77 Firebird!

Almost forgot.  Duration is 204 deg. intake, 214 deg. exhaust at .050 lift.
Bigjfig - 20 Jul 2004 03:01 GMT
>Subject: Re: Cam question
>From: kmiller kmiller@1.net
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>
>Almost forgot.  Duration is 204 deg. intake, 214 deg. exhaust at .050 lift.

Can you link to some pictures of this thing? It's a weird duck, I remember
decoding the VIN and other codes for you...

Yes, I know it's a legit vehicle, I'm the one that decoded it. LOL!

Would be interesting to see...
Joe--ASE Certified Parts Specialist & 10th Ann.Club Tech Director
'80 Carousel Red Turbo T/A, 27k orig.
'79 "Y89" 400/4 speed 10th Ann. T/A, 57k orig
'84 Olds 88 Royale Bgm 2 dr, 307 "Rocket" (lol), 143k and still going....
'91 S10 Blazer 4.3Z
kerry - 20 Jul 2004 04:49 GMT
>>Subject: Re: Cam question
>>From: kmiller kmiller@1.net
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> '84 Olds 88 Royale Bgm 2 dr, 307 "Rocket" (lol), 143k and still going....
> '91 S10 Blazer 4.3Z

Certainly!  Yes, it's a "strange bird", the vin comes out to be an
Esprit so somebody has apparently rebuilt it.  My daughter has pictures
of it on her old web site.  Here are 2 links:

This one was MY '67 Firebird:
http://www.geocities.com/eleventh_whisper/fbird.html

This one is her '77 Firebird/Trans Am/whatever:
http://www.geocities.com/eleventh_whisper/myfirebird.html

This was last fall, shortly after we got it.  I think it's the wrong
bird for a '77 but it looks ok.  If I decide to do some body work and a
paint job, I'll probably put the right one on it but I'm not in any
hurry to do that.  After this overhaul, I'm ready for a break!  Speaking
of which, I'm putting on a new right-front brake caliper Tues. nite.
Then I'll drive it to work for a few days before I turn it back over to her.

Kerry
KITT - 23 Jul 2004 08:08 GMT
Wow.. the bird looks pretty... as does your daughter..  :)

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Well catch ya later,
-Geno
1985 Blue Camaro 2.8L w/T-tops (147k and going.. starting to get worried
though)
1988 Blue Firebird Formula 5.0L w/T-tops
(Still looking for an '82-'84 T/A.. or parts from one...)

kmiller - 23 Jul 2004 22:45 GMT
Thanks, I'll tell her you said so!  I can't complain, she's more into
cars more than most of the guys she knows, she's done some of the work
on this project.

I recorded the car running with my PDA, maybe I'll convert it to an MP3
and see if she wants to post it to her web site.  It sounds GREAT.

Kerry

> Wow.. the bird looks pretty... as does your daughter..  :)
KITT - 23 Jul 2004 23:14 GMT
Its nice to see some women getting involved with cars... Its rather
attractive.  I have gotten so sick oof talking to women that get stranded,
usually because of a flat tire or something trivial, and most don't know
what a spare tire is, not to mention where it is or how to change it.  "Oh,
thats what my b/f is for"  Or "I am too cute to worry about that.. some guy
will help me"  Grr.. sorry.. enough rambling from me.

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Well catch ya later,
-Geno
1985 Blue Camaro 2.8L w/T-tops (147k and going.. getting worried though)
1988 Blue Firebird Formula 5.0L w/T-tops thats going to get a 6.6L soon...
(Still looking for an '82-'84 T/A.. or parts from one...)

BarracudaDesigns - 23 Jul 2004 23:20 GMT
> Its nice to see some women getting involved with cars... Its rather
> attractive.  I have gotten so sick oof talking to women that get stranded,
> usually because of a flat tire or something trivial, and most don't know
> what a spare tire is, not to mention where it is or how to change it.  "Oh,
> thats what my b/f is for"  Or "I am too cute to worry about that.. some guy
> will help me"  Grr.. sorry.. enough rambling from me.

I hear you on that.. my gf is going through for her Class A mechanic licence
up here. She did a complete rebuiild on her 73 Mach One all by her self
essentially LOL then I ll have someone to help rebuild the 80 Bird and it
gives us a hobby to do together
KITT - 23 Jul 2004 23:49 GMT
Very cool!  Yeah, my '88 is stored up at my ex's house.. shes really
interested ini helping me tear it apart and learn something.  She knows how
to change her oil now. :-)  Shes willing to learn, thats all that matters to
me.  So congrats to your g/f on her accomplishments, keep encouraging her..
and gooodd luck with the 'bird.

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Well catch ya later,
-Geno
1985 Blue Camaro 2.8L w/T-tops (147k and going.. getting worried though)
1988 Blue Firebird Formula 5.0L w/T-tops thats going to get a 6.6L soon...
(Still looking for an '82-'84 T/A.. or parts from one...)

BarracudaDesigns - 23 Jul 2004 23:58 GMT
> Very cool!  Yeah, my '88 is stored up at my ex's house.. shes really
> interested ini helping me tear it apart and learn something.  She knows how
> to change her oil now. :-)  Shes willing to learn, thats all that matters to
> me.  So congrats to your g/f on her accomplishments, keep encouraging her..
> and gooodd luck with the 'bird.

Thanks, had an 87 GTA with the 350 and T tops and this 80 so far is much
more fun to work on
kmiller - 24 Jul 2004 03:51 GMT
Yep, I told her she needed to at least be able to do the simple stuff
like plugs, oil, change a tire, etc.  I don't expect her to be able to
do an overhaul like I just did, but I also don't want her to be a
helpless bimbo.

Funny, now a couple of her guy friends hang around while I'm working on
it so they can help us and learn more about cars!  Sometimes I think
it's because she's there, but at least one guy is really interested
since he's got a Camaro that needs work.

If you want to see something else fun, check this site out:
http://www.texasmile.com
This is about 45 minutes from where we live, we went to the last race
and she already told me that I'm taking her to the next one.  I'm not
going to let her race it though...

Kerry

> Its nice to see some women getting involved with cars... Its rather
> attractive.  I have gotten so sick oof talking to women that get stranded,
> usually because of a flat tire or something trivial, and most don't know
> what a spare tire is, not to mention where it is or how to change it.  "Oh,
> thats what my b/f is for"  Or "I am too cute to worry about that.. some guy
> will help me"  Grr.. sorry.. enough rambling from me.
KITT - 24 Jul 2004 04:36 GMT
VERY nice... yeah, like I said.. we need a lot more women like that.  There
is a place for helpless bimbos.. but not behind the wheel.. lol....

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Well catch ya later,
-Geno
1985 Blue Camaro 2.8L w/T-tops (147k and going.. getting worried though)
1988 Blue Firebird Formula 5.0L w/T-tops thats going to get a 6.6L soon...
(Still looking for an '82-'84 T/A.. or parts from one...)

 
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