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Car Forum / Pontiac / Pontiac Firebird / July 2004

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Camaro 5.7L Spark Plug Wires

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Jman - 29 Jul 2004 16:40 GMT
Hey, I have an interesting situation here. I recently purchased a set
of Accel 8.8mm Spiral something or other wires for my 5.7L 350. As
soon as I put them on there was an occasional miss while driving and
especially while accelerating. I went ahead and put the old wires back
on and bingo, everything runs great again. I emailed the Accel people
and complained and they told me to check the specifications for my ecu
and find out how much or how little resistance it can handle in the
wires. They said that their wires have about 150ohms per foot or
something like that. Anyway, I am pissed and want to return the wires,
but Napa won't take them back. Crazy deal. So I'm wondering if anyone
knows anything about these wires or has seen problems like this
before. Any help or suggestions would be much appreciated. I am even
thinking of putting on only one accel wire a day and watching until
the misfire comes back. That might show me if a wire is defective.
Thanks a lot!

JAred
ray - 29 Jul 2004 17:00 GMT
> Hey, I have an interesting situation here. I recently purchased a set
> of Accel 8.8mm Spiral something or other wires for my 5.7L 350. As
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> JAred

I've concluded Accel wires are crap.  Every set I've owned has been
crap.  Last time I needed wires I bought the "house brand" instead of
the accel wires.

Ray
Charles Bendig - 29 Jul 2004 21:22 GMT
> > Hey, I have an interesting situation here. I recently purchased a set
> > of Accel 8.8mm Spiral something or other wires for my 5.7L 350. As
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>
> Ray

   I have  yet to have a set of Accel  wires fail before   the  warrantee
period  ends. I have bought spools of  wire, and put both ends  on each
wire. I also by universal sets  and custom fit them.

   I have yet to use a better plug wire.
Charles
Ray - 30 Jul 2004 00:38 GMT
>>>Hey, I have an interesting situation here. I recently purchased a set
>>>of Accel 8.8mm Spiral something or other wires for my 5.7L 350. As
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>     I have yet to use a better plug wire.
> Charles

When I was young, I used to think Accel wires were a good way to make my
car faster.  Then I realized with a stock ignition system I was wasting
my money on fancy plug wires...

I gave up on Accel wires after going through a similar experience with
the wife's Beretta... putting the stock wires back on it ran smoother.
Since then I've gone with generic wires and not had problems and saved
money.

I think I know why you haven't had problems - you put your own ends on -
I found the accel ends to be one of the worst for coming apart.  And I
can rewire my racecar and my house but I can't seem to crimp spark plug
wires... so buying a spool is out for me...

Ray
Charles Bendig - 30 Jul 2004 04:58 GMT
> >>>Hey, I have an interesting situation here. I recently purchased a set
> >>>of Accel 8.8mm Spiral something or other wires for my 5.7L 350. As
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>
> Ray

   I'm installing AccelTerminals and boots.  I have done it before  with
no special tools. Heck after my shop  go broke  in  to, I had to do a  wire
set. I ended  up using my pocket knife to strip   the wire, and a regular
pair of pliers to do  the  crimps. I  still  have not  purchased another
stamping crimpier, which works  via  dies, and  a hammer blow.   I always
test my  crimp, and test  with my   boot installed.  I have had to redo a
few   before. Yet no  matter  who did  the crimping,  or  whose  wires  I
were installing I   always check  them.

   Cheep wires are known for bad insulation, not  a proper  fit, and
terminals that stay on the spark plugs. I have even  had problems with
AC-Delco/Packard wire replacement sets. Which first lead me to use Accel
wires.

   Accel 8MM  wires always worked well for  me on  older cars. Especially
where I wanted  to tuck a wire  to keep it  off of something.  I have used
them  on every  thing from  Chevettes to Big Block powered drag cars.

   I first stepped up to their 8.8's  when I could  not  get a regular  8MM
set with mixed straight and angle boots.  While  I stood at the counter
looking at someone play  with an  Accel  veri-boot (variable angle). Nice
thick   plug boot. Looked pretty heat resistant. So  I forked  over about
twice the cost  and  bought  one  set. Kept  a check  on them. After   6
months I had no boot  burn thru (a problem  on that particular vehicle, no
matter who's wires were on it  before), yet some  slight damage.  Which a
set of heat sleeves cured from getting  to any where  near needing
replacement. That set up plug wires lasted 120,000 miles on that vehicle
until  the  owner scrapped it. I still have the wires, which I'm going to
reuse as they were  free to me, and  still good.

   I like  the 8.8MM wires better because they are more ridged. They also
have thicker insulation, which means even if the  other jacket gets nicked
(it happens),  less  chance of arc out.

   I  also  use  Accel  Ignition parts when  available. I have always had
good luck with   them as well.  The one  time I didn't, it was a coil  screw
that split the cap as  the  coil  was  being   installed. I went back and
exchanged  it.  Other  then that  I  have ran them  for  over 50,000 miles
with nothing more  then a  contact clean  up on distributor cap terminals.
Charles
Ray - 30 Jul 2004 13:08 GMT
>     I  also  use  Accel  Ignition parts when  available. I have always had
> good luck with   them as well.  The one  time I didn't, it was a coil  screw
> that split the cap as  the  coil  was  being   installed. I went back and
> exchanged  it.  Other  then that  I  have ran them  for  over 50,000 miles
> with nothing more  then a  contact clean  up on distributor cap terminals.
> Charles

that reminds me of the other reason I won't use accell stuff anymore -
my buddy's car - accell supercoil - the epoxy cracked and the coil
shorted out in the middle of nowhere...

Ray
Charles Bendig - 29 Jul 2004 21:19 GMT
> Hey, I have an interesting situation here. I recently purchased a set
> of Accel 8.8mm Spiral something or other wires for my 5.7L 350. As
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>
> JAred

   First of  all WHY  would you want to run  Spiral wound steel core wires?
Are you already pushing the envelope of RFI suppression core wires?  Did
you  drop a Tenth of  your ET's at the strip? If No, then  you need RFI
suppression wires.

   As for Accel 8.8 Wires, I use them on about Every Thing. My last Spool
of wire ran out  over a year ago. So I have been buying universal sets.

   NAPA  will not  accept installed parts as returned unless defective.
Accel does   not warrantee against you purchasing the  WRONG item.
Charles
Micah - 29 Jul 2004 22:15 GMT
Did you pick out the wires, or did the parts man select them for you?
Bruce Chang - 29 Jul 2004 22:29 GMT
> Did you pick out the wires, or did the parts man select them for you?

Did you spill the coffee on yourself or did McDonald's cause you to spill
the coffee on yourself?
Micah - 30 Jul 2004 00:38 GMT
> > Did you pick out the wires, or did the parts man select them for you?
>
> Did you spill the coffee on yourself or did McDonald's cause you to spill
> the coffee on yourself?

Why, are you one of McDonald's finest?
 
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