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Car Forum / Pontiac / Pontiac Cars / March 2004

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Programming additional keys and fobs (2003 Grand Prix)

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Fred Furia - 26 Mar 2004 16:51 GMT
Hello, all.  I just bought an '03 Grand Prix, and it came with only
one working key and fob.  I did get a second (unprogrammed) fob.

FOB:
Google-searching, I have learned that I should find the receiver,
short it, and press buttons on any fobs.  But I don't know where the
receiver might be, or how to safely "short" it.  Advice anyone?

KEYS:
Also, the local Pontiac dealer tells me they charge $65 for a key, and
another $45 to program it!!!

Any advice on cheaper ways to acquire and program keys?  Call Pontiac
directly for the key?  Program myself?

Thanks!
Fred
Rastan - 26 Mar 2004 17:25 GMT
goto ebay...just make sure if its a VAT key that you know what number it is.
and for remote make sure all numbers match on the back.  VAT keys go for
about $5USD on ebay.  if ur key is just a VAT key...there is no programming
for it.  just get it cut.  my '99 trans am was the same thing.  get the
dealership to tell you what number ur key is, then get one from ebay.  for
example mine was a 3. ( they test the chip resistor to find that out).
takes like 2 secs.  and any key shop can cut it for you.
Fred Furia - 29 Mar 2004 14:27 GMT
Okay, a do-gooder has emailed me explicit, perfect instructions for
programming the remote control.  My fobs are all set, and it was very
easy.  (THANKS!)

As for the VAT keys, I couldn't find any current E-Bay auctions, but
Froogle Google shows VAT keys for $26 (beats the $65 rip-off price!):

http://tinyurl.com/2szhw

My key has the engraving "PK3", and an "M" under that.  Does that mean
it's a VAT key of type 3?  Or do I just need to get a dealer to
identify it?

Thanks for the all quick help!
Fred

> goto ebay...just make sure if its a VAT key that you know what number it is.
> and for remote make sure all numbers match on the back.  VAT keys go for
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> example mine was a 3. ( they test the chip resistor to find that out).
> takes like 2 secs.  and any key shop can cut it for you.
markwb - 29 Mar 2004 22:10 GMT
I think VAT & PK 3 are two different types of keys & systems.  VAT = Vehicle
Anti-Theft, PK 3= Pass-Key III (Personalized Automotive Security System)
The VAT keys have the little resistor inbedded in the shank of the key.  The
PK 3 key has a transponder that matches a decoder in the vehicle.  On the
newer Bonnevilles they utilize the PK 3 keys.  On my older Bonneville ('97),
it had the VAT key.
--
markwb
2001 Bonneville SLE

> Okay, a do-gooder has emailed me explicit, perfect instructions for
> programming the remote control.  My fobs are all set, and it was very
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> > example mine was a 3. ( they test the chip resistor to find that out).
> > takes like 2 secs.  and any key shop can cut it for you.
Fred Furia - 30 Mar 2004 14:37 GMT
> The VAT keys have the little resistor inbedded in the shank of the key.  The
> PK 3 key has a transponder that matches a decoder in the vehicle.  On the
> newer Bonnevilles they utilize the PK 3 keys.

This sounds like bad news.  Does this mean I need the dealer for my
key?

I found a page with instructions on how to program a new key:
http://www.techtrainproductions.com/techtrain/User_7.htm

I can't seem to find the blanks this page refers to for sale anywhere
("original Strattec blanks or comparable transponder blanks"), and
this statement makes me worry about whether I could even hope to do
anything without a transponder programming device:

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Use original Strattec blanks or comparable transponder blanks.
"Neuter" blanks are designed to work with the cloning device only and
cannot be programmed directly into the system.  To add keys to the
system, you will need a working primary transponder key (black head
color).  Valet keys (gray head color) cannot be used for programming.
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Thanks for moving me forward.

Fred
Rastan - 30 Mar 2004 21:21 GMT
think you could email me the instructions?  i cant find mine anywhere and i
have a new remote off ebay coming this week.
GT Grand Prix 00 - 27 Mar 2004 01:37 GMT
the dealer should not charge for that...it only takes seconds
 
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