> 1988 Pontiac 6000 2.5L L4 123600 miles
> Went to drive to school today and almost didn't make it to school. Halfway
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> lose lots of power from my engine? (By the way - took Dad less than 5
> minutes to install the oxygen sensor.)
It's possible that the engine was running very rich and the cat
clogged up, melted down, and broke into little bits.
Travis King - 27 Sep 2005 04:57 GMT
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>> 1988 Pontiac 6000 2.5L L4 123600 miles
>> Went to drive to school today and almost didn't make it to school.
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> It's possible that the engine was running very rich and the cat
> clogged up, melted down, and broke into little bits.
Even if this would be possible, could this happen when the car was only
running for five minutes (if even that)?
=AB Paul =BB - 28 Sep 2005 01:38 GMT
> > It's possible that the engine was running very rich and the cat
> > clogged up, melted down, and broke into little bits.
> Even if this would be possible, could this happen when the car was only
> running for five minutes (if even that)?
Yes. 0.2 is too low. The O2 sensor was shot and telling the ecu
to dump raw fuel into the engine. Partially burned fuel hits the cat
melting it down and clogging the exhaust causing steadily decreasing power.
It is a classic bad 02 senario. The cat has probably been going bad
for weeks. If it started running good again its because there is not much
left inside the cat now.
Travis King - 27 Sep 2005 04:58 GMT
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>> 1988 Pontiac 6000 2.5L L4 123600 miles
>> Went to drive to school today and almost didn't make it to school.
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> It's possible that the engine was running very rich and the cat
> clogged up, melted down, and broke into little bits.
Secondly, I forgot that I should have mentioned that according to the codes,
they say that it's running lean, not rich and the voltage for the O2 sensor
was low (below .2 volt). Not too high.
William H. Bowen - 27 Sep 2005 07:51 GMT
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>they say that it's running lean, not rich and the voltage for the O2 sensor
>was low (below .2 volt). Not too high.
Travis,
But that is the point: if the O2 sensor failed and was telling the
ECM that the car was running lean when it was not, the ECM would
INCREASE the fuel to the engine, and make in fact run rich even if the
O2 sensor said otherwise. This would give the effect you mentioned
while driving to school.
I doubt a short time running in this condition would have detonated
the converter, but it might be smart to have the converter checked
before your next smog check is due - might save you a nasty suprise.
Regards,
Bill Bowen
Sacramento, CA
Travis King - 27 Sep 2005 22:16 GMT
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> Bill Bowen
> Sacramento, CA
We don't have smog tests in Iowa. But I understand now.