Home | Contact Us | FAQ | Search & Site Map | Link to Us
Sign In | Join | Other 45 Sites in Network
HomeAnnouncements
Discussion Groups
By Brand
BMWChevroletDodgeFordGMHondaLexusMercedes-BenzNissanPeugeotToyotaVolkswagenOther Brands
By Topic
4x4 CarsRVsDrivingMaintenance & RepairCar AudioCollectible Cars
Country Specific
Australian ForumsUK Forums
ArticlesAuto InsuranceBuyingCars & TechnologyMaintenanceMiscellaneousSafety
DMV Resources
Related Topics
MotorcyclesBoatsMore Topics ...

Car Forum / Pontiac / Pontiac Cars / September 2005

Tip: Looking for answers? Try searching our database.

O2 Sensor

Thread view: 
Enable EMail Alerts  Start New Thread
Thread rating: 
Travis King - 27 Sep 2005 01:33 GMT
1988 Pontiac 6000 2.5L L4 123600 miles
Went to drive to school today and almost didn't make it to school.  Halfway
there, the car started losing horsepower and started slowing down.
(Flooring it made no difference in the RPM)  SES light came on shortly
after.  About pulled over when it suddenly all came back.  Got to school and
checked the codes and they were the same saying that I had problems with my
Oxygen sensor.  Dad said that it could possibly be the ECM or a bad oxygen
sensor connector or fuel pump or EGR valve, but he said that we'll go ahead
and replace the Oxygen sensor because that is what it was reporting.  Cost
me $30.  Test drove it tonight and it ran smooth and felt like it had more
power.  (Although I could be imagining.)  I guess we'll find out in a few
days if this actually solved the problem as the SES light came on sometimes
and not others.  What do you think?  Could the oxygen sensor cause me to
lose lots of power from my engine?  (By the way - took Dad less than 5
minutes to install the oxygen sensor.)
=AB Paul =BB - 27 Sep 2005 04:09 GMT
> 1988 Pontiac 6000 2.5L L4 123600 miles
> Went to drive to school today and almost didn't make it to school.  Halfway
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> lose lots of power from my engine?  (By the way - took Dad less than 5
> minutes to install the oxygen sensor.)

It's possible that the engine was running very rich and the cat
clogged up, melted down, and broke into little bits.
Travis King - 27 Sep 2005 04:57 GMT
"« Paul »" <"=?x-user-defined?Q?=AB?= Paul
=?x-user-defined?Q?=BB?="@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4338B88A.3B8FB136@houston.rr.com...

>> 1988 Pontiac 6000 2.5L L4 123600 miles
>> Went to drive to school today and almost didn't make it to school.
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> It's possible that the engine was running very rich and the cat
> clogged up, melted down, and broke into little bits.
Even if this would be possible, could this happen when the car was only
running for five minutes (if even that)?
=AB Paul =BB - 28 Sep 2005 01:38 GMT
> > It's possible that the engine was running very rich and the cat
> > clogged up, melted down, and broke into little bits.

> Even if this would be possible, could this happen when the car was only
> running for five minutes (if even that)?

Yes.  0.2 is too low.  The O2 sensor was shot and telling the ecu
to dump raw fuel into the engine.  Partially burned fuel hits the cat
melting it down and clogging the exhaust causing steadily decreasing power.
It is a classic bad 02 senario.  The cat has probably been going bad
for weeks.  If it started running good again its because there is not much
left inside the cat now.
Travis King - 27 Sep 2005 04:58 GMT
"« Paul »" <"=?x-user-defined?Q?=AB?= Paul
=?x-user-defined?Q?=BB?="@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4338B88A.3B8FB136@houston.rr.com...

>> 1988 Pontiac 6000 2.5L L4 123600 miles
>> Went to drive to school today and almost didn't make it to school.
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> It's possible that the engine was running very rich and the cat
> clogged up, melted down, and broke into little bits.
Secondly, I forgot that I should have mentioned that according to the codes,
they say that it's running lean, not rich and the voltage for the O2 sensor
was low (below .2 volt).  Not too high.
William H. Bowen - 27 Sep 2005 07:51 GMT
>"« Paul »" <"=?x-user-defined?Q?=AB?= Paul
>=?x-user-defined?Q?=BB?="@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
>they say that it's running lean, not rich and the voltage for the O2 sensor
>was low (below .2 volt).  Not too high.

Travis,

 But that is the point: if the O2 sensor failed and was telling the
ECM that the car was running lean when it was not, the ECM would
INCREASE the fuel to the engine, and make in fact run rich even if the
O2 sensor said otherwise. This would give the effect you mentioned
while driving to school.

 I doubt a short time running in this condition would have detonated
the converter, but it might be smart to have the converter checked
before your next smog check is due - might save you a nasty suprise.

Regards,
 Bill Bowen
 Sacramento, CA
Travis King - 27 Sep 2005 22:16 GMT
>>"« Paul »" <"=?x-user-defined?Q?=AB?= Paul
>>=?x-user-defined?Q?=BB?="@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
[quoted text clipped - 51 lines]
>  Bill Bowen
>  Sacramento, CA
We don't have smog tests in Iowa.  But I understand now.
 
Sign In
Join
My Latest Posts
My Monitored Threads
My Blog
My Photo Gallery
My Profile
My Homepage

Start New Thread
Enable EMail Alerts
Rate this Thread



©2008 Advenet LLC   Privacy Policy - Terms of Use
This website includes both content owned or controlled by Advenet as well as content owned or controlled by third parties.