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Car Forum / Pontiac / Pontiac Cars / February 2006

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Travis King - 17 Jan 2006 03:07 GMT
1988 Pontiac 6000 2.5L 124,150 miles.  Yesterday when I went to start it,
the car turned over funny and it took two tries to start.  Once it was
started, it missed and sputtered for a minute until I gave it some gas.
Then it was okay.  It had no problem starting and going back home.  It did
this about eight months ago too.  That time it took probably 10 tries and it
really ran horrible that morning.  Since this isn't the first time this
problem has happened, it probably isn't a fluke.  Any ideas?  Thanks.

-Current problems-
A/C doesn't work
Speaker cuts in and out
Cruise doesn't work
Seat belts are wore out
Won't start in sub-zero temperatures
Makes a slight grindy noise when you start it in the cold for a moment (I
heard an Oldsmobile next to my car at school do the same exact thing with
the same engine)
Tires are wore out
Stalls sometimes when you push on the gas, does it more often in the cold
but it has done it in the heat before.  (Someone I talked to once owned an
Oldsmobile with the same engine and had the same problem - Oldsmobile could
never figure out the problem either.)
Small transmission fluid leak
On occasion (once every month or two) the catalytic converter will throw off
its smell (this will have to be worked on if it starts doing this more
frequently)
A rattling noise from the rear
Needs struts
Water leaks when it rains heavy and rushes in when you go to a car wash
TPS is probably bad (although it has been idling normally again lately)
I wish the turning radius could be a little better
The car's probably on its 4th or 5th muffler
It seems like every time I drive the car, it drives different each time

-On the bright side-
It's got relatively few miles for its age.  The body's in pretty good shape.
Most of the ones I see are covered in rust.  Most of the problems with the
car are just accessories or else problems that are typical of an old
vehicle.  It still has the responsiveness to swerve and miss a trash can
that falls right in front of me.  (Like it did on Friday.  Stopping was not
an option.)  I've heard these cars are built like a tank when it comes to
accidents and the car handles well in the winter weather.
Lee C. Carpenter - 17 Jan 2006 03:29 GMT
When was the last time the fuel filter was changed?

Lee

> 1988 Pontiac 6000 2.5L 124,150 miles.  Yesterday when I went to start it,
> the car turned over funny and it took two tries to start.  Once it was
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> was not an option.)  I've heard these cars are built like a tank when it
> comes to accidents and the car handles well in the winter weather.
Travis King - 17 Jan 2006 21:45 GMT
2 or 3 years ago.
> When was the last time the fuel filter was changed?
>
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>> was not an option.)  I've heard these cars are built like a tank when it
>> comes to accidents and the car handles well in the winter weather.
Travis King - 17 Jan 2006 21:46 GMT
> When was the last time the fuel filter was changed?
>
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>> was not an option.)  I've heard these cars are built like a tank when it
>> comes to accidents and the car handles well in the winter weather.

The car's been driven 4000 miles since then.
Lee C. Carpenter - 17 Jan 2006 22:57 GMT
That's not it then.

>> When was the last time the fuel filter was changed?
>>
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>>
> The car's been driven 4000 miles since then.
Reynaud - 17 Jan 2006 21:48 GMT
> 1988 Pontiac 6000 2.5L 124,150 miles.  Yesterday when I went to start it,
> the car turned over funny and it took two tries to start.  Once it was
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> Buddy  give your head a good shake and buy another car, this one is worn
> out junk.It will only get worse.

Rey
Travis King - 17 Jan 2006 23:46 GMT
>> 1988 Pontiac 6000 2.5L 124,150 miles.  Yesterday when I went to start it,
>> the car turned over funny and it took two tries to start.  Once it was
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>
> Rey

Tell me about it.  I don't plan on keeping the car for a long time.  The
problem is that I have to have money first.  I got the car from my Mom at
121,600 miles.  (Before the Pontiac, she had an '86 Celebrity with the 2.5
and got rid of it when the head was in need of replacement.  Someone took it
for $50 and from what I heard, the car's still running today.  Of course, I
assume it has a new head.)  I knew its history of problems.  My brother
originally bought it for $2800 8 or 9 years ago.  Supposedly an old lady had
owned it and her husband passed away.  It at the time had around 60,000
miles.  When he bought it, it had a very bad starting problem, which turned
out to take three expensive things to fix it - one of which was the fuel
pump.  At only 60,000 miles?  My dad had a reliable Caravan that never
needed one, and it had a starting problem, so he replaced the fuel pump to
find out that it was the fuel pressure regulator.  It had around 220,000
miles at the time.  The engine ran out of oil 6000 miles later because it
developed a major oil leak, and my brother needed to borrow it and ran it
out of oil because he's not very responsible to check the oil.  (By the way,
I checked my tranny the other day and it's getting a little low, so I'll
have to add some more fluid tomorrow.)

The problems that my car already had when I got it:
A/C
Won't start in sub-zero temperatures (I remember when I had to go out and
start it for Mom when she worked)
Tires worn (although not as bad as they are now)
Stalling
Water leaks
One less muffler replaced (I had to do it once a few months after I got the
car, luckily the old one had a life-time warranty)
Brake pads wore out - made a loud screech even when driving and not braking
Oil leak (valve cover gasket)

NEW PROBLEMS ENCOUNTERED SINCE I GOT THE CAR (SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN FIXED)
I'VE HAD THE CAR FOR TWO YEARS.  (Yeah I know, no shouting... lol)
Starting problem here and there
Speaker cutting in and out
The grindy noise when the engine runs when you first start it in the cold
Tranny fluid leak
Struts
Noise from the rear
TPS
One more muffler (FIXED for free)
Entire rear brake job (FIXED - both wheel cylinders were leaking and the
mechanic said I was lucky that I never lost my brakes completely - cost:
$300)
Tranny would not go sometimes when you put it into drive (FIXED - needed
fluid change)
Rotors (FIXED - wore out when we replaced the brake pads)
Calipers (FIXED - locking up)
Oxygen sensor (FIXED - almost had to pull over when the engine lost all of
its power and flooring it made no difference in the RPM - SES came on)
Antifreeze leak (FIXED - the leak was small at the time)
Oil leak - twice (FIXED - blew the valve cover gasket twice, finally had to
use silicone to fix it)
Seat belts wore out
Travis King - 04 Feb 2006 01:23 GMT
>>> 1988 Pontiac 6000 2.5L 124,150 miles.  Yesterday when I went to start
>>> it, the car turned over funny and it took two tries to start.  Once it
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> to use silicone to fix it)
> Seat belts wore out

The car just did it again today.  It didn't want to start.  It turned over
fine, but it wouldn't start.  Then the next time I tried, it turned over
funny again.  On the third try, it started.  It stalled twice yesterday and
when someone turned going up a hill yesterday, I had to floor it to get any
kind of acceleration or else I could have crawled at 15MPH to 20MPH and the
other cars around me were still having no problems accelerating better than
mine.  (And I bet they didn't need to floor it.)  (This is nothing new,
however because the engine is lacking.)  The 98hp is lacking.  I'd like to
get a different vehicle that you don't have to floor it to make it up a hill
without sluggish acceleration, but of course I've got to have money first.
SamIam - 08 Feb 2006 01:01 GMT
Travis- I'm not sure what's wrong with your car, but I sure feel a lot better now about mine :) . I read all your posts and replies and fell off my chair. THANKS....YOU MADE MY DA
P.S. you have a great future in comedy if you want it

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SamIam
SamIam - 08 Feb 2006 01:11 GMT
Travis- I'm not sure what's wrong with your car, but I sure feel a lot better now about mine :) . I read all your posts and replies and fell off my chair. THANKS....YOU MADE MY DA
P.S. you have a great future in comedy if you want it

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SamIam
 
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