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Robert - 13 May 2006 21:43 GMT
I'm sure this has been discussed to death..

I'm in the market for a Vibe/Matrix.

I like the new styling of the Vibe, looks good!

I'm sure I'd be happy with either/or.  I hope the dealer treats me as well
as the local yota dealership does.

Anyone HATE their Vibe??

The only thing I do hate is the cargo cover.... WTF??  brutal.  I wish there
was an upgrade.
tj - 13 May 2006 23:32 GMT
A little noisy, but not bad for a cheap car.

> I'm sure this has been discussed to death..
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> The only thing I do hate is the cargo cover.... WTF??  brutal.  I wish
> there was an upgrade.
John Karpich - 14 May 2006 02:11 GMT
> I'm sure this has been discussed to death..
>
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> The only thing I do hate is the cargo cover.... WTF??  brutal.  I wish there
> was an upgrade.

The steering wheel is in a odd place. I's almost impossible to drive it
to drive it with one hand resting on the window cel. You have to use 2
hands either @ 9 & 3 o'clock, or 10 & 2 o'clock. this is the only thing
I would change. (and the AC is a little weak) I've had my Vibe since
July 2005, and I love it.

Check out this Vibe site    http://www.genvibe.com/   all the info
you'll need
Melissa - 14 May 2006 13:58 GMT
> I'm sure this has been discussed to death..
>
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> The only thing I do hate is the cargo cover.... WTF??  brutal.  I wish there
> was an upgrade.

I had a 2003 Vibe which I traded in earlier this year for a 2005. I love the
car...They changed a couple of things in the 2005 for the better. The
display lighting for one thing is much better than the 2003.  On the con
side, they changed the center console to a cheaper type and it's not as high
or as practical.  Interior lighting is not as good as it could be...there is
no light in the glove box and the door switches etc. aren't lit.

I get about 24 mpg around town and 33-34 on the highway. My town driving is
very stop and start.    For my height and size, the seat and steering wheel
adjust fine. My husband doesn't like the steering wheel adjustments.  But
then again, I don't like driving his Bonneville.  The height of the seat
works perfectly for me...I don't have to climb in or climb out of the car.

Road noise is "moderate" IMO.  For the most part, I really like this car and
find it fun to drive. I know a few people through my job who drive them and
they also love them.  Make sure and test drive it.  I think it's either a
love or hate thing with the Vibe.  I don't use the cargo cover, but I love
the 2 nets that hook in the back. I use them all the time to keep bags of
groceries from sliding around.

I drove an '85 Astro Van from late 1988-2002, so that was a bit of a change
for me.

Melissa
Robert - 14 May 2006 15:05 GMT
>> I'm sure this has been discussed to death..
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> Melissa

Thanks for all of your replies, and yours as well Melissa.

I am going from an old Volvo which has been a great car (but terrible fuel
economy) to a Vibe/Matrix.

I've driven an automatic, and really, I think I can live with just about
anything that the Vibe will throw at me.

The only things I don't like (after taking a close look):

- the one color package looks terrible.  The paint doesn't match (because
the parts are made at different suppliers) from the bumper to the fender
flare.  The fender flares look "textured" as opposed to the fender paint.  I
don't want the two color appearance package.

- the stereo.. it's a GM unit!!  hmmm, it might be ok, it just looks old
school (like in the late 90s pickups!!)  The Matrix wins here.  I could just
replace it I guess.

- the cargo cover.. oh well, no fix for it, I'll have to live with it.

Otherwise, I think it's a great car!

I want the manual version, cheaper to buy, a little more fun to drive, and a
bit better on fuel.  Less resale value, but I plan on keeping it for 8 years
minimum.

The A/C is weak eh?  well, that's not so bad I guess... I don't like to have
full blast A/C anyhow, so, if it chills it down a wee bit, that'll be better
than nothing.  Currently my car has NO A/C ;)..

Cheers
Thomas - 15 May 2006 05:09 GMT
I was in the market for a Vibe.  Love the looks and the versatility.
Drove it,  Thought it was a little noisy, ruff riding and didn't like
how the steering wheel was so far away also have yet to see one with a
power drivers seat.  Then I test drove a '06 Grand Prix and thats all
she wrote!!! I found it very comfortable, quiet, very responsive and
with just the base model, which is the one I got, had all the toys I
wanted including a POWER SEAT!!  As for MPG I  got 26.5 MPG with
city/highway driving.  Sure it will get in the 30's with only highway.
I got a slightly used Hertz car there for saving a bundle on
depreciation.  Only had the car 3 weeks and loving it so far.  It gets
up and really goes  when you romp the pedal unlike the Vibe that made a
bunch of strained noise from the 4 banger and didn't seem to do a whole
lot of moving.  Now I'm not trashing the Vibe I do like them
allot....but for me I'm a big guy and the GP just fit better and was
really impressed with how quiet and comfortable it is, as was my sister.
I like to do weekend road trips so comfort is a high priority for me.

Good luck and happy car hunting...

Tom
Robert - 16 May 2006 02:14 GMT
I was in the market for a Vibe.  Love the looks and the versatility.
Drove it,  Thought it was a little noisy, ruff riding and didn't like
how the steering wheel was so far away also have yet to see one with a
power drivers seat.  Then I test drove a '06 Grand Prix and thats all
she wrote!!! I found it very comfortable, quiet, very responsive and
with just the base model, which is the one I got, had all the toys I
wanted including a POWER SEAT!!  As for MPG I  got 26.5 MPG with
city/highway driving.  Sure it will get in the 30's with only highway.
I got a slightly used Hertz car there for saving a bundle on
depreciation.  Only had the car 3 weeks and loving it so far.  It gets
up and really goes  when you romp the pedal unlike the Vibe that made a
bunch of strained noise from the 4 banger and didn't seem to do a whole
lot of moving.  Now I'm not trashing the Vibe I do like them
allot....but for me I'm a big guy and the GP just fit better and was
really impressed with how quiet and comfortable it is, as was my sister.
I like to do weekend road trips so comfort is a high priority for me.

Good luck and happy car hunting...

Tom

Thanks Tom!

I like the bigger cars as well, I drove a G6 for a week, and it was sweet.

I got one in Black, and while the engine isn't super powerful, IT BLEW AWAY
THE DODGE CALIBER I drove an hour before.

The Caliber was unpleasing to drive..  It was horrible.

Got in the Vibe, total difference in quality.  yes, it was more expensive,
BUT.. light years ahead in build quality...  The brand new Caliber I drove
was making a lot of vibration noises from the interior bits.  However, the
engine was SUPER quiet in the Caliber compared to the Vibe.

The Vibe has everything I need, and no, I don't believe they ever have, or
ever will come with a power driver's seat.  I like things all manual, except
the windows of course.

Nothing will beat the Vibe (in GM lineup) for fuel economy, so, that's why I
stuck with the Vibe.  The Chevy Aveo and Pontiac Wave (I dunno if they sell
the Wave in the US, do they??), aren't as good, and are smaller than the
Vibe!!

I call my car the Vibetrix.  I haven't picked it up, the ink is still wet on
the paperwork (but I'm pre-approved for the finance).

sweet ;)

Thanks!! Now I'm feeling the Vibe!
Thomas - 16 May 2006 08:35 GMT
CONGRATS  to you Robert.  I'm sure you will love it.  My best friend
drove a Matrix for 3 years for her work and put 65K on it in that short
time.  Not a seconds trouble.  Their great cars.    And black you say?
Sharp!!!  That was that was my first choice as well and ended up getting
a black Grand Prix.  Yes those Vibes are good looking cars.  I prefer
them over the Matrix....as I have always liked the Pontiac styling.

Happy motoring!!

Tom
P T - 21 May 2006 03:08 GMT
OT:
John K wrote

>The steering wheel is in a odd place.
>It's almost impossible to drive it to
>drive it with one hand resting on the
>window sill. You have to use 2 hands
>either @ 9 & 3 o'clock, or 10 & 2 o'clock.

I read in a motoring column a couple years ago where a guy said 10 & 2
hand over hand steering was old school, and no longer the recommended
method.  He claimed the standard now is 8 & 4, with your hands pushing
the bottom 1/3 of the wheel during turns.  He claimed having your hands
up at 10 & 2, and especially with hand over hand, could lead to nasty
results if the airbag goes off and your arm smashes into your face.  He
further claimed that almost all cars have cut-outs at about 8 & 4 to
accommodate holding the wheel.  

On a related note, my car has side airbags, and there is a warning in
the owners' manual not to ride with your arm resting on the window sill.
The same sort of thing I guess, if the air bag goes off, it can rip your
arm clean off at the shoulder. Okay, maybe not, but seriously, the
manual does say not to ride like that.
JC - 21 May 2006 04:30 GMT
PT,

  You mentioned the side curtain air bag option. Looking at the Vibe option
sheet, I am a little confused on what it takes to get this option. I have a
2005 Vibe in the body shop. It was T-Boned by a Chevy Tahoe where the Tahoe
hit the Vibe on the drivers side near the front door hinges. My wife was
driving, and she was hurt from busted glass (busted by her head). My Vibe
did not have the side curtain air bags. So far she has a concussion, and
daily severe headaches. As for the Vibe it will survive. It survived the
accident pretty well considering the Tahoe was also towed away. The front
left fender, drivers door, left passenger door all get replaced along with
the pillar where the left drivers door attaches.

My suggestion for those considering buying a Vibe is to get the side curtain
air bag option...don't blow that off like I did. The Vibe is expendable, but
I nearly lost my wife over the lack of this option.

Question, Can you upgrade a 2005 Vibe by getting the side curtain airbags
installed? What would that cost?

BTW, consider the Mazda 3 hatchback. It has similar features as the Vibe,
but with more "standard" equipped accessories such as:

17" alloy wheels
4-wheel disc brakes
ABS Breaking
Side curtain airbag for all 4 side doors
2.3 liter 160hp motor with balls yet mileage is similar to Vibe's weak 1.8
liter.
All for about $18,000

I bought a Mazda 3 the day before my wife's Vibe was wrecked. The Mazda was
for me, but now I think she will take that Mazda, and I will drive the Vibe
whenever they get it fixed.

My 2 cents.

Regards,
Jim

OT:
John K wrote

>The steering wheel is in a odd place.
>It's almost impossible to drive it to
>drive it with one hand resting on the
>window sill. You have to use 2 hands
>either @ 9 & 3 o'clock, or 10 & 2 o'clock.

I read in a motoring column a couple years ago where a guy said 10 & 2
hand over hand steering was old school, and no longer the recommended
method.  He claimed the standard now is 8 & 4, with your hands pushing
the bottom 1/3 of the wheel during turns.  He claimed having your hands
up at 10 & 2, and especially with hand over hand, could lead to nasty
results if the airbag goes off and your arm smashes into your face.  He
further claimed that almost all cars have cut-outs at about 8 & 4 to
accommodate holding the wheel.

On a related note, my car has side airbags, and there is a warning in
the owners' manual not to ride with your arm resting on the window sill.
The same sort of thing I guess, if the air bag goes off, it can rip your
arm clean off at the shoulder. Okay, maybe not, but seriously, the
manual does say not to ride like that.
JC - 22 May 2006 22:35 GMT
> Question, Can you upgrade a 2005 Vibe by getting the side curtain airbags
> installed? What would that cost?

I checked today with a Pontiac dealer. They say that this option cannot be
installed after the car leaves the factory. Another way of saying it is that
this is not a dealer installed option, or a DIY option. The good news is
that even without this option, the Vibe is structurally pretty strong. It's
not making my wife's concussion headaches go away though..

Yesterday my wife creased the fender of my two week old Mazda 3.... :-(

Jim
Bob - 23 May 2006 00:33 GMT
>> Question, Can you upgrade a 2005 Vibe by getting the side curtain airbags
>> installed? What would that cost?
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>Jim

The side airbags have their own sensors and all the sensors are tied
in with the onboard computer.  Besides being not possible, DIY
installations would be a liability nightmare for the automaker.
Side bags are worth it...too bad they're not standard equipment.  I'm
sure someone will argue that point, but everyone has an opinion.
cyberviber@gmail.com - 24 May 2006 23:34 GMT
I really like my 5 speed 03 vibe, but everybody wants something
different from a car.  (Anybody looking at buying any new car needs to
take a serious test drive.)   fwiw, I've gotten a lot of good Vibe info
from forums.genvibe.com,   I think the  Vibe is still the best rated
mpgs in the entire GM lineup ( a side effect of the Toyota powertrain)
 
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