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Car Forum / Pontiac / Pontiac Cars / August 2006

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93 grand prix LE

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inventit1@verizon.net - 22 Aug 2006 01:23 GMT
i cant figure this one out, i have a 93 grand prix le 3.1, when i drove
it it would dog out while driveing as if it was clogged up, no power,
just putting, so i put a new motor in it. out of a car that was running
good, the same dogging happened, so i replaced every sensor, erg valve,
new plugs gapped out 45 thousands, new wirers , new coil packs, and new
ac delco ecu, everything has been replaced with new,  not used or
remanufactured, now it will run but still doggs out, and at times it
comes out of it and runs like a champ, then a few miles down the road
it will dogg out again, sometimes it will run good for  10  to 20 miles
and then start dogging out, and  when it is dogging out  if i  let off
the gas  quick and  repress the pedal it will pick back up and run good
for a few  miles and then start dogging out again, i am lost i have
replaces everything with no luck, please help me i am about ready to
dump into a pit  and wash me hands of it. thank you any body that may
know  what the hell is gooing on with this car.
bobby swift - 22 Aug 2006 02:25 GMT
Exhaust clogged up maybe?
=?x-user-defined?Q?=AB?= Paul =?x-user-defined?Q?=BB?= - 22 Aug 2006 03:07 GMT
> i cant figure this one out, i have a 93 grand prix le 3.1, when i drove
> it it would dog out while driveing as if it was clogged up, no power,
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> dump into a pit  and wash me hands of it. thank you any body that may
> know  what the hell is gooing on with this car.

Fuel pump shot?
Bon·ne·ville - 22 Aug 2006 06:00 GMT
> i cant figure this one out, i have a 93 grand prix le 3.1, when i drove
> it it would dog out while driveing as if it was clogged up, no power,
> just putting, so i put a new motor in it. out of a car that was running
> good, the same dogging happened, so i replaced every sensor, erg valve,
> new plugs gapped out 45 thousands,

Return them to .060"

> new wirers , new coil packs, and new
> ac delco ecu, everything has been replaced with new,  not used or
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> dump into a pit  and wash me hands of it. thank you any body that may
> know  what the hell is gooing on with this car.

Which is easier, replacing a motor or doing a cylinder pressure test.
Which is easier, replacing the coil pack or checking the resistance of
the coils.
Which is easier, replacing the fuel pump or checking the fuel pressure
with a fuel gage??? From what I can tell you havent touched the fuel
pump or fuel filter. The filter might be a good thing to change every
20k-25k miles. The fuel pump however you have two choices, blindly
replace it like you seem to have done with the rest or...get a fuel
pressure gage and do some "DIAGNOSING"! You can really save yourself
some heartache by doing some simple and inexpensive test.
no one that you know - 23 Aug 2006 05:12 GMT
Good guess.....it must ne the motor? lol

> i cant figure this one out, i have a 93 grand prix le 3.1, when i drove
> it it would dog out while driveing as if it was clogged up, no power,
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> dump into a pit  and wash me hands of it. thank you any body that may
> know  what the hell is gooing on with this car.
cuthroat - 24 Aug 2006 00:21 GMT
the motor i pulled was running good at the time of the pull,i have
since replaced the complete exhaust system,i just ran a fuel preasure
test and it checked out fine  evin with applying preasure with a manual
preasure pump with no results, i also got new plugs and gaped them out
to 60 thousands, still no luck with the stumble problem,another thing
is that i can unplus  many sensors and i will not get  a code when i do
so. i only get a code when i  unplug the knock sensor. all other
sensors will not produce a code when unpluged so i am still lost, any
way thanks very much for all replys, you all have been very helpfull .
 
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