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Why Not more Bonnevilles?
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javawizard - 11 Mar 2007 18:42 GMT I have a Pontiac Bonneville that's holding up just fine, being 12 years old. My question, is why are they so rare? Here in California, at least, I see very few of them. - Jef www.odd-info.com
Tyrone Pookie Berkowitz Jr - 11 Mar 2007 21:08 GMT >I have a Pontiac Bonneville that's holding up just fine, being 12 > years old. My question, is why are they so rare? Here in California, > at least, I see very few of them. > - Jef > www.odd-info.com Just another classic GM bungle. Just like they got rid of pontiacs best seller the Grand Am, and now getting rid of the Grand prix to be replaced by an Australian made car the G8. They have a death wish.
brxsep - 11 Mar 2007 22:08 GMT On Mar 11, 3:08 pm, "Tyrone Pookie Berkowitz Jr" <Bts...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > years old. My question, is why are they so rare? Here in California, > > at least, I see very few of them. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > seller the Grand Am, and now getting rid of the Grand prix to be replaced by > an Australian made car the G8. They have a death wish. GM walked away from the Pontiac line for several years. The Bonnie lost its way in the last generation and the generation that made Pontiac great is getting older. California is a style market, just looks whats on the freeways today. I'm in central PA and there are lots of them. In fact you see examples of mid 90's with 150+ miles still selling for over $ 4,000.
The link between the days of high-speed at Bonneville and todays market is gone. Same with the Grand Am and Grand Prix with go back to the great days of racing. Look at the Indy 500, its not a money maker like NASCAR.
My two cents. I have my 95 red Trans Am with the up-life spoiler ready to hit the road. Folks don't know what to make of it and thinks its brand new the style is still cutting edge. Just hope Pontiac hurry's up the next generation Firebird soon.
My two cents.
Joe - 12 Mar 2007 06:16 GMT Other than the ones mentioned, two reasons you don't see many is that they were pretty expensive, for a V-6 front drive American car (maybe the most expensive) and the styling was a little bit strange.
>I have a Pontiac Bonneville that's holding up just fine, being 12 > years old. My question, is why are they so rare? Here in California, > at least, I see very few of them. > - Jef > www.odd-info.com 80 Knight - 12 Mar 2007 06:45 GMT Expensive maybe, but I always thought the Bonnie's looked awesome. I used to own a '90 and '91 (both SSE's), and am now on my second '96 (the first a loaded SE, the current one a fully loaded SSEi). IMHO, the base SE models, when not having a spoiler look pretty dull, but the rest are awesome. IMHO, they got even better in 1996 when the tail lights and front grills were updated. Plus, the V6 in the SSEi is more powerful then some V8's, including the one in the Crown Vic's.
> Other than the ones mentioned, two reasons you don't see many is that they > were pretty expensive, for a V-6 front drive American car (maybe the most [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> - Jef >> www.odd-info.com Infin1ty - 13 Mar 2007 20:30 GMT Their not rare around here. The dealership up the corner from my house has 3 of them for sale, and 3 of my friends own one
> I have a Pontiac Bonneville that's holding up just fine, being > 12 [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > - Jef > www.odd-info.com
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Harry Face - 13 Mar 2007 23:28 GMT The Bonneville seems rare because of the low production. I have a 1991 and only around 42,000 were built. in 91 folks were holding off to see what the redisgned 1992 model looked like. Bonneville sales jumped 140,000 in 92. After I saw the 1992 model I was glad I bought the 1991.
When you see those figures its no wonder you don't see many. Here is the Chicago area I see more 87-89 styles than the 90-91 style.
Some of the Park Avenue production totals I have seen for 1997 to 2002 indicate Buick only made between 56,000 to 83,000.
Harryface 05 Park Avenue 54,102 91 Bonneville 309,010
Geoff Welsh - 14 Mar 2007 09:49 GMT > When you see those figures its no wonder you don't see many. Here is the > Chicago area I see more 87-89 styles than the 90-91 style. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Harryface WHa?!?! Cars from the 80's in Chi-town aren't all rotted out from salting the snow? Everything 80's is a pile of crap here. GW
Harry Face - 14 Mar 2007 17:12 GMT GW,
You got that salt air floating around year round in Hawaii to rust your cars.
I was in Ouaha & Maui in 1985 and saw cars that had rust in places you never seen rust on cars in Chicago, NY, Philly. And were in the rust belt! Hawaii cars had lot of rain gutter rust, The painted window frames around the side windows had rust top edge and the edges of the widow fraes where the weatherstrip contacted the paint, tops of fenders, roofs and hoods were covered in fine coating of rusty. Touching some of the cars felt like rubbing you hand over 150 gritt sandpaper, it was uncanny.
Here in Chicago, The 87-91 Bonnevilles I see around here have held up pretty good. There are some that have faded paint jobs, surface rust and a few that are rusty out pretty bad. The 87-91 SSE's seem to rust out more than the LE / SE due to the extra body cladding along the bottom of the car. On the doors that plastic cladding comes up about 14 inches from the bottom. There are at least 9 molding clips on each door to hold them on, plus screws from the inside.
There is an arab woman in the adjoining suburb to me that is driving a gold 88 /89 SSE that has a hole so big through the rear door above the body molding that you could put your foot into. Again, It rusted out around the molding clip studs. All down the tops of her moldings are 3, 4 and 5 inch diameter circles of rust. Some broke through, but that one on the rear door is really something.
The 92-96 generation Buick LeSabre and Park Avenues I see here seem to have a problem with the rocker panels rotting away. This occurs at the front as well as the back and even the middle. These are models that have exposed rockers with no attached moldingson them.
Now the 92-96 Olds 88 / 98's didn't seem to have that problem with their rocker panels rotting away, nor did that generation of Bonnevilles.
My 91 has three little areas that have rusted through unfortunately. The 1/4 panel behind the LR Door where the damn molding clipped on and two spots on both 1/4 panels where they meet the bumper fascia right at the wheel opening. Same spots see on other Bonneviles like mine rust there too.
Fenders & doors are solid yet. The hood is rusting from the inside out along the pinch seams over both headlights. The hood roof & trunk has haze cracks in the paint. I knew I shouldn't of gotten black car.
harryface 05 Park Avenue 54,202 91 Bonneville 309,044
Geoff Welsh - 15 Mar 2007 09:22 GMT > GW, > [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > 05 Park Avenue 54,202 > 91 Bonneville 309,044 What you saw in 1985 is totally irrelevant in todays modern world. Cars don't rust much, here, I never said they did. I said everything from the 80's here is a pile of crap. Falling apart. Blown head gaskets, broken everything elses, etc. I figured if cars that AREN'T rusting were piles of crap, then cars in Chicago would be much much worse. GW ps you meant Oahu.
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