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Car Forum / Pontiac / Pontiac Cars / November 2007

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possessed 2000 Grand Am

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Ron Seiden - 07 Nov 2007 04:01 GMT
My son's "new" 2000 Grand Am SE has a weird problem. When his power steering
got noisy and then crapped out, we checked the fluid level and it was way
low. We filled it, and a day later it was low again. We filled it again (to
avoid running it dry, and so he could drive it okay) and took it into our
mechanic. The mechanic said they checked it all over and could find no signs
of any leak anywhere (and it didn't seem to have lost fluid between last
fill-up and arrival at the shop).
Now, a few days later, the same thing's happened again. The car's back in
the shop, but meanwhile I figured I'd ask if anyone knew of any way it could
be losing power steering fluid without leaving any puddle in the driveway or
being visible to the mechanics...
Thanks.
David Courtney - 07 Nov 2007 18:52 GMT
On my GTP the fluid was going out the end seal on the steering rack and
filling up the "bellows" that cover the steering tie rods.
   It wouldn't leak out until you turned "full-lock" and compressed the
bellows on that side... then it would dump fluid all over the road.

> My son's "new" 2000 Grand Am SE has a weird problem. When his power
> steering got noisy and then crapped out, we checked the fluid level and it
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> driveway or being visible to the mechanics...
> Thanks.
Ron Seiden - 08 Nov 2007 04:13 GMT
> My son's "new" 2000 Grand Am SE has a weird problem. When his power
> steering got noisy and then crapped out, we checked the fluid level and it
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> driveway or being visible to the mechanics...
> Thanks.
Mechanic found it: The power steering pump on this beastie (2.4L dohc 4
cylinder) is mounted on the back end of the exhaust cam. Yes, hard mounted
onto the camshaft and right up against the engine. (It looks as though it's
just the reservoir, but it's actually the pump up there at the rear of the
engine.) The shaft seal was leaking and the power steering fluid was going
*into the engine*. Therefore, it not only left no external leakage signs, it
was also slowly diluting the oil. (Apparently the pump shaft seal and the
camshaft seal back up against each other.)
Typically, the seal was not replaceable, requiring replacement of the whole
pump. Oh, well, at least this mechanic found the problem, and we're good now
for another 100k or so...
 
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