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Shifting from drive to neutral when moving

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Tim - 28 Apr 2008 16:07 GMT
Does continual shifting from drive to neutral and back cause any
long-term damage?
What I mean is continually shifting into neutral when approaching stop
signs and red lights?
Shep - 28 Apr 2008 20:44 GMT
What vehicle, stick or auto and why?
> Does continual shifting from drive to neutral and back cause any long-term
> damage?
> What I mean is continually shifting into neutral when approaching stop
> signs and red lights?

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Tim - 29 Apr 2008 12:16 GMT
It's an auto.

> What vehicle, stick or auto and why?
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The Reverend Natural Light - 29 Apr 2008 19:47 GMT
> Does continual shifting from drive to neutral and back cause any
> long-term damage?
> What I mean is continually shifting into neutral when approaching stop
> signs and red lights?

No, but it doesn't help anything either.  There is no friction while
stopped in drive.  I do it a lot myself because automatic
transmissions annoy me.  I routinely put it in neutral at stop lights
or pull it out of overdrive when decelerating.
Tim - 29 Apr 2008 20:10 GMT
>>Does continual shifting from drive to neutral and back cause any
>>long-term damage?
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> transmissions annoy me.  I routinely put it in neutral at stop lights
> or pull it out of overdrive when decelerating.

Does it glide better in neutral? Are the RPMs less.

My old car used to seem to idle smoother when in neutral so I would put
it in neutral while at a stop light so it wouldn't stall. It was an auto
too.

I was just reading about hypermilage-ing and wanted to see if that would
help at all.
Shep - 29 Apr 2008 20:24 GMT
Negligible difference, an unloaded engine ( neutral) would use slighly less
fuel, but for the short time, it is not worth it plus if you had to make a
sudden emergency manuever, now what.

>>>Does continual shifting from drive to neutral and back cause any
>>>long-term damage?
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> I was just reading about hypermilage-ing and wanted to see if that would
> help at all.

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Tim - 30 Apr 2008 21:40 GMT
What if  you are shifting gears manually or are in neutral at a stop
light and have to make an emergency manuever?

> Negligible difference, an unloaded engine ( neutral) would use slighly less
> fuel, but for the short time, it is not worth it plus if you had to make a
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Shep - 01 May 2008 21:03 GMT
Are you talking about a std shift car if so it should be in 1st, foot on
clutch for a shorter engagement time, if an auto it shouldn't be in neutral
unless you are experiencing extended idling time for some reason.
> What if  you are shifting gears manually or are in neutral at a stop light
> and have to make an emergency manuever?
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The Reverend Natural Light - 29 Apr 2008 21:05 GMT
> Does it glide better in neutral? Are the RPMs less.

Back in the earlier days of fuel injection, ECMs would shut off fuel
completely during deceleration.  Leaving it in gear while slowing down
would basically let the car's momentum keep the engine spinning with
no fuel use at all.  Unfortunately, that causes a spike in NOx
emissions so new cars keep dumping in fuel even when decelerating.
Even worse, my '99 Grand Cherokee steps up the idle control motor when
I shift down into 2nd - conveniently eliminating the additional engine
braking that I wanted.

> I was just reading about hypermilage-ing and wanted to see if that would
> help at all.

Don't really know.  Try it both ways and find out.  Get a car with a
manual transmission.  That makes a real difference.

For mileage, make sure your tires are inflated properly.  That makes a
huge difference and air is cheap.
Ron Seiden - 30 Apr 2008 04:10 GMT
> Does continual shifting from drive to neutral and back cause any long-term
> damage?
> What I mean is continually shifting into neutral when approaching stop
> signs and red lights?

When I used to commute over back country roads (hills, turns, turns at the
top or bottom of hills, etc.) in winter (snow, ice, hardpack, freezing rain,
black ice, etc.) in an old rear wheel drive barge, I frequently put it into
neutral before trying to brake so that the rear (drive) wheels would brake
the same as the fronts. (Left in drive, the fronts would tend to lock up
first on slippery surfaces since they don't have the engine trying to keep
them moving.) It may have helped (I never slid much at all), but after a
couple of years of that I needed a new transmission. Only thing I can think
of is wearing out the clutches and actuators by going into & out of drive so
much...
Tim - 30 Apr 2008 21:42 GMT
>>Does continual shifting from drive to neutral and back cause any long-term
>>damage?
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> of is wearing out the clutches and actuators by going into & out of drive so
> much...

They let you change between the two without depressing a button so I
would hope that indicates that you won't damage the transmission.
Of course, it will be damaged less than shifting from drive to reverse
while still going forward.
ds549@webtv.net - 11 May 2008 14:15 GMT
i dont know,let us know how it works out... maybe youll hit reverse
one day .

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