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94 GTP, 3.4  no rear brake pressure

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Ajm1 - 15 Jul 2008 17:46 GMT
intermittant problem, stays for months goes away for weeks.Abs and chec
engine comes light on.
When working rear calipers and pressure seem fine.
Thought it was one of the two solenoids on the abs
valve(sticking)but after looking at valve, each solenoid has a front an
rear brake line going to it and the front brakes work fine.
Any idea's on where to start.......th

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Shep - 16 Jul 2008 00:18 GMT
If you scan the abs with an abs function scanner may be able to pin down the
source of the problem.
> intermittant problem, stays for months goes away for weeks.Abs and check
> engine comes light on.
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Ajm1 - 16 Jul 2008 00:15 GMT
would you know of a scanner type , i just looked at a bunch and they won
read my car (cheaper units).
i might have to find someone with a high end model .

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jd2579 - 16 Jul 2008 01:46 GMT
> would you know of a scanner type , i just looked at a bunch and they wont
> read my car (cheaper units).
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Actron CP9449 BrakeScan Diagnostic Scanner
Ajm1 - 16 Jul 2008 02:01 GMT
Nope, just looked it up .
Works on 96 and newer (the model i found )
thanks though..

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Shep - 16 Jul 2008 21:38 GMT
I would pay some shop to do this for you, I have a Snap On MTG 2500 with the
abs cartridge, 3,600.00 set up!!
> Nope, just looked it up .
> Works on 96 and newer (the model i found )
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Ajm1 - 17 Jul 2008 22:06 GMT
Would anyone have an idea  of the cause of this problem and repair, while
get to a scantool.
I am wondering if this will show up as a code
again thanks for your help...

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aarcuda69062 - 18 Jul 2008 16:28 GMT
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> Would anyone have an idea  of the cause of this problem and repair, while i
> get to a scantool.
> I am wondering if this will show up as a code
> again thanks for your help....

Have you taken the black plastic cover off of the bottom of the
hydraulic modulator?
One of the gears inside may have come loose.
Be careful, don't lose the gear and screw.
clare at snyder dot ontario dot canada - 18 Jul 2008 22:36 GMT
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>One of the gears inside may have come loose.
>Be careful, don't lose the gear and screw.

Happened to my '94 Trans Sport.
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Ajm1 - 19 Jul 2008 01:28 GMT
Thanks Clare, what you describe sounds quite likely.
I just found a TSB that describes this completely,
would you know how to relieve the brake pressure
without a scantool ?
I thought i had read that pumping the brakes about
50 times, ignition off/engine off will do it but i am not sure.
I am assuming that you have to pull the ABS/master cylinder out of the ca
and do this repair on the bench..........................thanx

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clare at snyder dot ontario dot canada - 19 Jul 2008 06:08 GMT
>Thanks Clare, what you describe sounds quite likely.
>I just found a TSB that describes this completely,
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>I am assuming that you have to pull the ABS/master cylinder out of the car
>and do this repair on the bench..........................thanx

I just loosened the lines and removed the master cyl ass'y - figured I
had to replace it - and heard a rattle when I turned it over on the
bench. So I pulled it apart and fixed it.
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aarcuda69062 - 19 Jul 2008 14:22 GMT
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> Thanks Clare, what you describe sounds quite likely.

Clare didn't offer that, I did.

> I just found a TSB that describes this completely,
> would you know how to relieve the brake pressure
> without a scantool ?

Why would you want to?

> I thought i had read that pumping the brakes about
> 50 times, ignition off/engine off will do it but i am not sure.
> I am assuming that you have to pull the ABS/master cylinder out of the car
> and do this repair on the bench..........................thanx

On the bench?  WTF?  There is an abundance of room to get the cover off,
why make it any more complicated than merely removing the cover?
I've repaired dozens and dozens of these and never once needed to remove
the ABS modulator to do so.
Ajm1 - 17 Jul 2008 22:48 GMT
Would anyone have an idea  of the cause of this problem and repair, while
get to a scantool.
I am wondering if this will show up as a code
again thanks for your help...

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Shep - 18 Jul 2008 00:37 GMT
There may be a stored abs code relating to the brake isssue.
> Would anyone have an idea  of the cause of this problem and repair, while
> i
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Ajm1 - 19 Jul 2008 16:05 GMT
what you describe sounds quite likely.
I just found a TSB that describes this completely,
would you know how to relieve the brake pressure
without a scantool ?
I thought i had read that pumping the brakes about
50 times, ignition off/engine off will do it but i am not sure.
I am assuming that you have to pull the ABS/master cylinder out of th
car
and do this repair on the bench..........................than

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