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Car Forum / Porsche / Porshe 911 / February 2008

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996 TT transmission issue

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Eisboch - 27 Feb 2008 15:03 GMT
I have an '02 996 TT that I bought almost two years ago.  It is a Certified
Pre-Owned  (had 18,200 miles) and is equipped with the manual transmission.

Soon after I got it, I started to notice that while de-accelerating in 2nd
gear, the gearshift would "pop" out of gear and into neutral.   If I kept
light pressure on the gearshift with my hand, it would be fine.

Since the 2 year CPO warranty was about to run out, I brought it back to the
dealer thinking it was a simple adjustment issue.   Turns out they have to
remove the transmission and replace a gear.  Fortunately, it is fully
covered by the Porsche CPO warranty.

I am just curious if anybody else has experienced this problem.  I love the
car and have only put 2000 miles on it since I bought it.  Is this a
particular weakness of this transmission?  20,200 miles seems rather low to
be having transmission issues.

RCE
Low Life #3 - 27 Feb 2008 16:40 GMT
:I have an '02 996 TT that I bought almost two years ago.  It is a Certified
: Pre-Owned  (had 18,200 miles) and is equipped with the manual transmission.
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: particular weakness of this transmission?  20,200 miles seems rather low to
: be having transmission issues.

I suspect the tranny in the 996 TT is a standard 996 tranny (probably same
as a 997 tranny).
The Dead Senator - 28 Feb 2008 07:28 GMT
> I suspect the tranny in the 996 TT is a standard 996 tranny (probably same
> as a 997 tranny).

You sure about that?  I thought the Turbo version was a bump up in
quality/strength.

Looks like 2nd gear is a potential weak point in both.  A Google search
yielded this result:

http://www.theautobahn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16936
Eisboch - 28 Feb 2008 13:46 GMT
>> I suspect the tranny in the 996 TT is a standard 996 tranny (probably
>> same as a 997 tranny).
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>
> http://www.theautobahn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16936

Since my original post I've been doing a bit of Google research and indeed,
the turbo is supposed to be a "beefed up" version of the standard
transmission.  The problem is apparently with the sychro gears not
completely engaging and leading to wear.  For some reason it is more
prevalent in 2nd gear than in any other.  There is no problem shifting into
second, either on the upshift or downshift.  It just pops out of second
during de-acceleration.

Fortunately, I was told by the Porsche dealership that it will be fixed
under warranty. (whew!)   I know it didn't happen on my watch because it
exhibited the "pop out"  the day I purchased and picked up the car and the
salesperson who drove it before I picked it up confirmed that it happened to
him as well.

I drive it like an old lady anyway.

Eisboch
Guru - 28 Feb 2008 18:04 GMT
> I drive it like an old lady anyway.
>
> Eisboch

About 20 years ago, I was privileged to participate in one of Peter Sontag's
"Porschefest" trips to Le Mans, Zuffenhausen, Weissach, and the Hockenheim
Ring.  As we left the factory, the then head of Public Relations reminded
everyone who was taking delivery of new cars that Porsches ALWAYS drove in
the left lane on the autobahn, and that they were confident that we would
maintain the marquee's reputation.

No one would ever suggest that you "thrash" your Turbo; however, driving it
like a little old lady means you're missing a large measure of the enjoyment
of driving a remarkable car.  If you're unsure of the car's limits or your
driving capabilities, try participating in a few of your local Porsche
Club's activities...such as a DE (Driver's Ed), and autocross, or multi-car
tour.  You can enjoy your Turbo's finer aspects, while still driving safely.

Regards from Texas!
Eisboch - 28 Feb 2008 18:57 GMT
>> I drive it like an old lady anyway.
>>
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>
> Regards from Texas!

Thanks for the excellent suggestion.  Apparently the original owner was a
member of a local Porsche Club and the dealership recommended that I contact
them and consider joining.   I think this spring I'll look into it.

I had originally bought a new, '06 BMW  M5.   Although sophisticated,
complex and capable of very decent performance, I realized after a few
months of ownership that the only way to really appreciate it's capabilities
was to drive it hard and fast.   Otherwise, it was very much like driving my
son's regular 5 series BMW, but with a stiffer ride.   I ended up trading it
towards the Porsche Turbo.

The Porsche is a completely different performance car all together.  One of
the things I like about it is that it still feels like a high performance
sports car, even at 40 mph.

RCE
Lawrence Lugar - 28 Feb 2008 23:19 GMT
...kind of off-topic

but just wondering, would a Tiptronic version be less, or even not,
susceptible to this transmission(manual) issue you speak of?

>>> I suspect the tranny in the 996 TT is a standard 996 tranny (probably
>>> same as a 997 tranny).
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>
> Eisboch
Eisboch - 29 Feb 2008 10:39 GMT
> ...kind of off-topic
>
> but just wondering, would a Tiptronic version be less, or even not,
> susceptible to this transmission(manual) issue you speak of?

My uneducated guess is that it would not be susceptible at all since it's an
automatic.  The problem my car has is with the second gear synchronizer.

RCE
Low Life #3 - 28 Feb 2008 17:45 GMT
: > I suspect the tranny in the 996 TT is a standard 996 tranny (probably same
: > as a 997 tranny).
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
:
: http://www.theautobahn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16936

Good Catch.  I shall now go soak my head in a bucket.
William Noble - 28 Feb 2008 05:57 GMT
you might imagine that the previous owner thought he (it was probably a
"he") knew how to speed shift but really didn't - I'll bet there is a lot of
wear on the clutch too.

>I have an '02 996 TT that I bought almost two years ago.  It is a Certified
>Pre-Owned  (had 18,200 miles) and is equipped with the manual transmission.
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> RCE

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