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Car Forum / Porsche / Porshe 911 / July 2008Gas mileage
I love it when people smugly comment about how my 996 TT must be "terrible" in terms of gas mileage. Today, for kicks, I reset the car computer that calculates MPG as I entered onto a limited access highway. I drove for approximately 45 miles, at speeds ranging from 60 -75 mph, mostly 65-70 mph. I didn't do anything special in terms of driving techniques ... just drove normally. At the end of the 30 miles, the computer calculated mileage at 28.9 mpg. My "normal" average of combined around town and highway is usually about 20-21 mpg unless I have done some sustained "spirited" driving. Not bad, all things considered, and the look on people's faces when I tell them what it gets for mileage is usually one of disbelief. Eisboch > I love it when people smugly comment about how my 996 TT must be "terrible" > in terms of gas mileage. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Not bad, all things considered, and the look on people's faces when I tell > them what it gets for mileage is usually one of disbelief. I won't doubt you, but I will ask if you have double checked your computer with other calculations. I have a program on my Treo that works great (also, my car is without a fuel computer), and I get 22-23 around town and 28 on the highway. All the Turbo numbers I see are a couple mpg below that and this has been preventing me from buying one. Now you've given me hope, but I have got to have more proof! I do understand that there is some variation in all cars of the same make/models, but I would think slapping a Turbo on would not help gain mileage... DS 95 993 Coupe >> I love it when people smugly comment about how my 996 TT must be >> "terrible" in terms of gas mileage. [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > DS > 95 993 Coupe I am a bit dubious of the numbers also. Recently filled up and will check mileage the old fashioned way. However, based on it's smallish tank size and comparing it to several other vehicles that we routinely drive, the Porsche definitely gets what I would call very decent mileage for a car with over 400 hp. One note. During the described trip and experiment, the turbo(s) never kicked in to deliver any boost. The engine runs effortlessly at 70-75 mph with the turbo boost reading "0.0 bar". Eisboch >>> I love it when people smugly comment about how my 996 TT must be >>> "terrible" in terms of gas mileage. [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > Eisboch Does anyone purchase a Porsche based on gas mileage? Certainly, no one wants a vehicle that gets 10-15 mpg regularly, but to drive a turbo...never using any boost...or drive your normally aspirated 911, Boxster, et al, as if you had an egg under your right foot, simply defeats the entire philosophy of the marque. Now I don't practice or subscribe to the "drive as fast as you can, weaving in and out of traffic" school (we'll leave that to the Vettes and rice burners); however, as the man at the factory said as a group of Porsches was delivered to a tour group, "remember, you're driving a Porsche, and Porsches always drive in the left lane on the autobahn." Amen! Guru > Does anyone purchase a Porsche based on gas mileage? Certainly, no one > wants a vehicle that gets 10-15 mpg regularly, but to drive a [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Guru The MA State Trooper traveling a few cars ahead of me would not be all that impressed with the turbo kicking in. :-) Eisboch > Does anyone purchase a Porsche based on gas mileage? Certainly, no one > wants a vehicle that gets 10-15 mpg regularly, but to drive a [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Guru well, I've driven Porsches since I learned to drive - though I did have a morgan and a 38 plymouth for a while - it's nice to have a car that will get up and go when you want to, but I find that I don't need or want to zoom everywhere. I bought my 993 mainly for comfort, the zooom factor was just not a consideration. So, I guess I am at least one example - just because I can go 180 doesn't mean that I have to. ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** >> Does anyone purchase a Porsche based on gas mileage? Certainly, no one >> wants a vehicle that gets 10-15 mpg regularly, but to drive a [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > just not a consideration. So, I guess I am at least one example - just > because I can go 180 doesn't mean that I have to. I certainly agree with you. The Porsche has much to offer in terms of driving pleasure. It's high performance capabilities are only one of it's assets and one that frankly, I don't exercise often. I like it because it feels as much like a sports car at 35-40 mph on winding back roads as it does at 100 mph on the highway, perhaps even more so. Eisboch > Does anyone purchase a Porsche based on gas mileage? Certainly, no one > wants a vehicle that gets 10-15 mpg regularly, but to drive a turbo...never [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > a group of Porsches was delivered to a tour group, "remember, you're driving > a Porsche, and Porsches always drive in the left lane on the autobahn." Incidentally, most of the Vette drivers I see are driving at the exact speed limit and are usually graying older men in their fifties. The rice burners on the other hand are exactly as you've described. -- These times are changing. No, I did not buy the Porsche for mileage, but my initial Porsche was bought ten years ago. Now, I am hooked into the marquee because of performance, reliability, looks, and a small host of other positives. The fact that it gets 23-24MPG around town, when driven properly, is a pleasant discovery. Especially as petrol climbs higher and higher in price. I also have a desire to produce less carbon instead of being blind to the problem that surrounds us. And I am tired of feeding the monster! Porsche will have to do something to make more efficient cars that still perform. The marquee will die if they do not. These are different times and the internal combustion engine's days are numbered in the form that we know it. Guru, I want the performance when I need it. Trust me, I still use it. But I also want fuel economy when I desire, too. I use sixth gear on the freekway now instead of fifth for that extra drop in rpms. When I have a long hill, I shove the clutch in and coast. I still goose it on occasion when 'required', but for the most part, I don't thrash around on the roads nearly as much as I used to. Do I want a Pious (Prius)? No, not really. I admire the mileage, but they are hideous to look at, so I guess my vanity wins out over my desire to reduce my carbon footprint. Damn ego. I also have some doubt as to the footprint left from producing and using the battery technology. An electric car with recyclable batteries is a possible answer. I guess my point is that I want the performance and looks of the Porsche, but I don't want to reduce my fuel economy at all, either. If anything, the next car I purchase must get better mileage. If it is not a Porsche, I would be very sad. I hope my rambling made some sense. DS 95 993 Coupe (23-28) lol >> Does anyone purchase a Porsche based on gas mileage? Certainly, no one >> wants a vehicle that gets 10-15 mpg regularly, but to drive a [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > DS > 95 993 Coupe (23-28) lol A thoughtful and rational response. I agree that in the long run, the internal combustion engine may have to go the way of steam engines; however, I gather that the 2009 Carreras with direct injection will produce more HP with even better fuel mileage. I suspect that Porsche and their colleagues at Audi-Volkswagen are investigating new technologies as we speak. Guru |
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