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Car Forum / Porsche / Porshe 911 / February 2004

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911 SC sitting to long

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Neil - 27 Jan 2004 00:27 GMT
My `82 SC has been sitting in the barn for too long and I suspect that the
pistons may have
become 'stuck' in the barrels. The symptom is that the starter motor
engages, but it just
seems to draw excessive current and stalls
. I know that this doesn't sound good at all, and I need to get the
piston(s) unstuck
before I do anything else. I guess that the first thing is to remove the
spark plugs and spray
oil into the cylinders and let it sit for a while before I try to turn the
cranshaft over.
Would something like WD40 be ok, or should I use something else?

Neil
Upallnight - 27 Jan 2004 01:45 GMT
Plain motor oil will be okay, or you can spray penetrating oil into the
spark plug holes.  WD40 isn't really a penetrating oil, it just good for
displacing water not rust,  Let the oil sit and see if you can turn it by
hand and not the starter.  If the rings are rusted to the cylinders or to
the pistons you can crack the rings if you try to force the engine to turn
over.

> My `82 SC has been sitting in the barn for too long and I suspect that the
> pistons may have
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Mark - 27 Jan 2004 02:03 GMT
Neil,

Have you tried putting a socket & ratchet or breaker bar on the crankshaft
end and see if you can turn the engine by hand? It shouldn't take a lot of
force. That will tell you if it's really stuck or if you've got some other
problem, like a weak battery or corroded connections.

I assume you know if it was running OK before it got put away.

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> My `82 SC has been sitting in the barn for too long and I suspect that the
> pistons may have
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> Neil
Neil - 27 Jan 2004 03:08 GMT
Mark,
Yes, it was running fine. I did wonder if there wasn't a corrosion problem
somewhere in
the starter motor circuit. When the key is turned, the starter motor engages
and then seems to
stall (the interior light dims to nothing) and since the car has been
sitting there for about a year (I had been away
much longer than I anticipated) I assumed the worst.

I'll try a socket/spanner on the crackshaft as you suggest just to see.

Thanks for your comments.

Neil

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Jbew3 - 28 Jan 2004 02:55 GMT
Not likely that freeing the pistons will do damage to the rings.  First
remove the spark plugs, then put a squirt of oil in each cylinder, then put
the car in gear, start with second gear, and gently rock the car back and
forth.  After a short period it should break loose.  Then you can do the
starter bit.  Make sure there is no leaves, straw or other junk  can get
into the spark plugs holes.  then remove the breather, put fresh fuel in the
car, raise the little black weight with the key on, to purge the system, put
fresh plugs back in and let her rip.  I have seen aircraft engines sitting
for 25 years fire up and fly away the same day.  Change the oil.  Once you
get her running change the oil again after 200 miles or so.  good luck.
> Mark,
> Yes, it was running fine. I did wonder if there wasn't a corrosion problem
Neil - 29 Jan 2004 00:34 GMT
OK, so I removed the plugs and rocked the car in gear and the engine does
not appear to
be stuck at all - as there was no initial resistance to crankshaft rotation.
The same problem still
exists when I turn the key, so I'll check the various electrical connections
and try another battery.
Thanks for your comments.

Neil

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John  Bradley - 29 Jan 2004 02:07 GMT
Just a point...make sure to check all the ground (earthing) connections.
Good luck.
john
83SC

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Neil - 03 Feb 2004 23:35 GMT
OK, I traced the problem to a corroded earth strap between the battery and
the chassis.
It looked OK, but was heavily corroded under some sheilding.
Fitted a new earth strap and the engine started almost immediately.
Thanks for your help and comments.

Neil

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oldtee3 - 04 Feb 2004 00:23 GMT
 
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