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|-|erc - 29 Apr 2004 01:14 GMT Own the ultimate in personal .com domains, forget a porsche number plate get this premium dot com featured on your rear window or paint job. Make your own car forum and get 1000s of members with this unique domain.
www.PorscheTurbo.com for quick sale $500 Paypal. email: domainsATfindit.com
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E Brown - 29 Apr 2004 08:53 GMT >Own the ultimate in personal .com domains, forget a >porsche number plate get this premium dot com featured on [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >www.PorscheTurbo.com for quick sale $500 Paypal. >email: domainsATfindit.com There is NO WAY Porsche won't come after the person that tries to use this domain; they're notoriously litigious about their name and trademark. I'd sooner spend half a grand getting a bulls-eye to wear at an archery competition. Emanuel
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Bernard Farquart - 29 Apr 2004 14:57 GMT > >www.PorscheTurbo.com for quick sale $500 Paypal. > >email: domainsATfindit.com [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > at an archery competition. > Emanuel They did say "quick sale" you weren't supposed to think that far ahead.
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|-|erc - 30 Apr 2004 01:13 GMT \ oo \____|\mn / /_/ /\ \_\ - Herc, The Unrecognised Truman / K-9/ \/_/ - Join www.chatty.net - /____/_____\ - Nanotechnology is gonna be HUGE... (RMF) --------------
> > >www.PorscheTurbo.com for quick sale $500 Paypal. > > >email: domainsATfindit.com [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > They did say "quick sale" you weren't supposed > to think that far ahead. Its possible the domain will get yanked off you, but I doubt it, as long as you don't stick PorscheTurbo stickers on a RX7 and abuse ambiguity of the label to sell them its not conflict of interest.
Its not a concern for me since I'm the TRUeMAN, don't expect any of you to believe me, got flamed here last year over it. So intellectual property rights are different for me since about a trillion dollars in intellectual property is taken from my life for worldwide media. Companies aren't as skeptical as usenet I can lever pretty much anything. Unless they were keen on a multi-million dollar promotion "Porsche Turbo", me holding the name is like George Bush volunteering at your P&C meeting.
There are millions of fan sites on internet with TM as part of the name, if they went after porschefan.com they would likely lose. Besides it costs them $10K and 3 years to legally take the name off you and they usually offer what it cost you in the C&D letter.
Anyway, when I'm properly famous you might catch it on TV on the back of my Porsche :) And I'll offer a (co-owned by The Truman) link on your site to keep their lawyers away!
TM risk is small, that's why its a few hundred $ and not $20K.
Herc see me in my www.PorscheTurbo.com
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dksqpv41597ofbhr16mi7tdj2qfihvoldv%404ax.com Hey Trueman... what up, my uncle told me you post here... he's did some audio on your secret show and gave me some tapes. love the show.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=1epmdv8iqmnckeqhctnf17537rt8hevjeh%404ax.com You rule Truman.
http://www.google.com/groups?as_umsgid=9aqbbv85c53jobkenltkil2tbsdk7m2n3p@4ax.com I was in Townsville over the weekend, and I heard him. Very spooky!
http://www.google.com/groups?as_umsgid=me7hbv4snqc6gnb1cktj3cvqtiibnpm6s9@4ax.com I'm from Townsville and YOU ARE the Truman
http://www.google.com/groups?as_umsgid=3eb66422.779705967@news.ozemail.com.au I'm in Townsville. We're sick of you
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.OSF.4.21.0309230859190.5384-100000%40marl in.jcu.edu.au
>Do you know if the truman is living in Townsville? I've been hearing stuff, yeah.
Bernard Farquart - 30 Apr 2004 01:21 GMT > > > There is NO WAY Porsche won't come after the person that tries to > > > use this domain; they're notoriously litigious about their name and [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > don't stick PorscheTurbo stickers on a RX7 and abuse ambiguity of the label > to sell them its not conflict of interest. You must not be very familiar with Porsche and the complete control they exercise over their trademark. Go try to buy ANYTHING from an aftermarket vendor with the crest on it. FYI you won't be able to.
Bernard
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"Bernard Farquart" <bfarquart@notmyemail.net> wrote in > > > > >
> > > > There is NO WAY Porsche won't come after the person that tries to > > > > use this domain; they're notoriously litigious about their name and [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > an aftermarket vendor with the crest on it. > FYI you won't be able to. What does PorscheTurbo mean? Is that their trademark? It no different to www.PorscheFan.com.
I'm not trying to pull wool over your eyes, but they seem to have missed these 7,000,000 TM domain violations too!
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If I had a letter from Porsche honouring the free use of the name I'd sell it for $10K. Porsche *may* have deed to the name, I'm not disputing that, but they don't have much case if its used responsibly. Do you think they are going to shut down www.porscheclub.com ?
At any rate my email address hasn't resolved yet so anyone who wants the name try again later. the fact its a fine name doesn't imply its bogus. I can't think of a better name for a usenet sig at all! I bought it for myself, but I'm looking at buying a million banner impressions to fire up one of my sites ($500!). The small risk is reflected in the price, in business there's a simple rule, the profitibality of the venture is proportional to the risk. There is a small risk IMO, which makes it a potentially good deal.
You porsche guys all drive 55 now? Herc
The Dead Senator - 30 Apr 2004 03:10 GMT |-|erc wrote: > Internet Explorer® (ab Version 5.0), und den Netscape Communicator ... [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > You porsche guys all drive 55 now? > Herc Those are *all* Porsche sanctioned websites. If Porsche doesn't sanction it or bless it, it's gonna be gone.
DS
|-|erc - 30 Apr 2004 04:09 GMT > Those are *all* Porsche sanctioned websites. If Porsche doesn't > sanction it or bless it, it's gonna be gone. > > DS ? 2002 Porsche Cars North America, Inc. Legal notice. Privacy Policy
You're telling me Porsche TM owns every Porsche Owners Club in the world?
You want to meet in the mountains with your friends and you have to advertise in the paper The Meeting For The Car Formally Known As ......
cmon! Turbo is literally another word for Fan (great pun!), Porsche doesn't own any intellectual property rights on the word turbo. As long as your usage isn't counterproductive to Porsche its legally your name.
Microsoft went after MikeRoweSoft.com because its a take on the company, they can't undo fan sites surely that's half the web.
Anyway, $450 its a once only offer, all you guys are left in text newsgroups because you don't understand fair usage. Car forum sites are huge, there's guys selling them getting 1000 people a day all the time with names nowhere near as good as this. I bought it because in another year its gonna be emblazoned in a huge paint job on my Porsche to be... site or not!
If you ran Porsche, would you want ownership of all the fan names? or would you want the public on internet to develop them?
Herc www.PorscheTurbo.com
The Dead Senator - 30 Apr 2004 07:01 GMT |-|erc wrote:
>>Those are *all* Porsche sanctioned websites. If Porsche doesn't >>sanction it or bless it, it's gonna be gone. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > You're telling me Porsche TM owns every Porsche Owners Club in the world? It does not matter what your intentions are. Porsche owns the right to say whether or not you can have the word Porsche in your website name. Period. I betcha they wouldn't think much of you trying to profit from their name.
Check these pages out, they're even from your neck-o-the-woods:
http://www3.au.porsche.com/english/aus/dialog/faq/trademarks.htm http://www3.au.porsche.com/english/aus/copyright.htm
BTW: We're here in the text newsgroups by choice. And, yes, we go 55 mph on our way to three digit speeds, thank you very much.
|-|erc - 30 Apr 2004 23:05 GMT > |-|erc wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Period. I betcha they wouldn't think much of you trying to profit from > their name. Selling cars yes, fan site, personal site no. What's the problem with this?
> Check these pages out, they're even from your neck-o-the-woods: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > BTW: We're here in the text newsgroups by choice. And, yes, we go 55 > mph on our way to three digit speeds, thank you very much. um no, once a forum user always a forum user, you've obviously never used VBulletin.
We would like to assure our customers that Porsche AG is not trying to interfere with, or restrict, their freedom of speech. The opposite is true. We greatly appreciate ... Our actions concerning the web pages mentioned above have only goal. We have to protect our trademarks from infringement and exploitation
The reason PorscheClub.com is operating is because it doesn't exploit the name. Anyway no use arguing, guess I'll just put porsche out of business by decade end then.
Herc
Bernard Farquart - 01 May 2004 05:08 GMT > > Selling cars yes, fan site, personal site no. What's the problem with this?
Personal site, commercial site, if it can be seen, they will ask (tell) you to stop using it.
How can you still not understand what everyone is telling you?
Jack D. Russell, Sr. - 01 May 2004 10:32 GMT BF> "|-|erc" <gotchy@beauty.com> wrote in message BF> news:35Akc.5704$TT.5124@news-server.bigpond.net.au... H>> Selling cars yes, fan site, personal site no. What's the problem H>> this?
BF> Personal site, commercial site, if it can be seen, they will ask BF> (tell) you to stop using it.
BF> How can you still not understand what everyone is telling you?
Either he/she's a troll, or just not intelligent enough to comprehend the written word. Then again, he/she may be a teenager who already knows it all and has to learn everything the hard way. ;)
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|-|erc - 01 May 2004 11:25 GMT > BF> "|-|erc" <gotchy@beauty.com> wrote in message > BF> news:35Akc.5704$TT.5124@news-server.bigpond.net.au... [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > the written word. Then again, he/she may be a teenager who already knows > it all and has to learn everything the hard way. ;) i'm surprised and dissapointed i thought there might be a smidget of culture with porsche drivers, you have the attitudes of 18 yo torana rev heads.
i'v asked you 4 times now, who owns porscheclub.com and why is it listed on page 1 of google under "porsche" ?
turbo is just another word for fan, 1 million website owners can't be wrong.
Herc
The Dead Senator - 01 May 2004 11:57 GMT |-|erc wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Herc porscheclub.com IS A PORSCHE SANCTIONED WEBSITE! How many times must it be said? Did you even read the site??? Is English not your first language? Why are you so thick-headed? You are merely a troll, perhaps.
The word turbo means nothing to Porsche and I wasn't aware that there were 1 million sites with the word turbo in it. But who the hell cares? Have at it. Put Porsche in it and you'll be hearing from their legal department eventually.
We have this attitude because you seem to not understand what is being patiently explained over and over to you. If you don't believe us, call Porsche and ask what a fair price for your site would be. Perhaps someone should point them in your direction...
I'm done.
|-|erc - 01 May 2004 15:38 GMT > >> BF> "|-|erc" <gotchy@beauty.com> wrote in message > >> BF> news:35Akc.5704$TT.5124@news-server.bigpond.net.au... [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > be said? Did you even read the site??? Is English not your first > language? Why are you so thick-headed? You are merely a troll, perhaps. BZZZ!
PorscheClub.com ? 2002 Porsche Cars North America, Inc. Legal notice. Privacy Policy
Porsche.com ? 2004 Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG. Legal notice.
Here's 60 thousand more domains Porsche has to register to stop those evil fan sites.
Results 1 - 10 of about 58,900 for "porsche club". www.pca.org/ - www.porscheclub.com/ - www.porschenet.com/ - www.porscheclub.org.au/ - www.porscheclubgb.com/ - www.pcv.com.au/ - www.porscheclubholland.net/ - www.porsche-club-928.de/ -
Wake up and feel the sunshine, they're fan sites, porsche dont own 100,000 company names, what are these sites going to call themselves?
> The word turbo means nothing to Porsche and I wasn't aware that there > were 1 million sites with the word turbo in it. But who the hell cares? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > I'm done. No the point is anyone can use any word with fair use, not exploiting the company,
XFilesFan.com ??
According to you that belongs to Fox, bull!
Herc
Jack D. Russell, Sr. - 01 May 2004 20:32 GMT >> porscheclub.com IS A PORSCHE SANCTIONED WEBSITE! How many times >> must it be said? Did you even read the site??? Is English not your >> first language? Why are you so thick-headed? You are merely a >> troll, perhaps. e> BZZZ!
e> PorscheClub.com e> © 2002 Porsche Cars North America, Inc. Legal notice. Privacy Policy
e> Porsche.com e> © 2004 Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG. Legal notice.
That's it. NOBODY can be that stupid. Troll,,,thru and thru. I'm done.
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Jack D. Russell, Sr. - 30 Apr 2004 10:40 GMT >> Those are *all* Porsche sanctioned websites. If Porsche doesn't >> sanction it or bless it, it's gonna be gone. >> >> DS e> © 2002 Porsche Cars North America, Inc. Legal notice. Privacy Policy
e> You're telling me Porsche TM owns every Porsche Owners Club in the e> world?
e> You want to meet in the mountains with your friends and you have to e> advertise in the paper The Meeting For The Car Formally Known As e> ......
e> cmon! Turbo is literally another word for Fan (great pun!), Porsche e> doesn't own any intellectual property rights on the word turbo. As e> long as your usage isn't counterproductive to Porsche its legally e> your name.
e> Microsoft went after MikeRoweSoft.com because its a take on the e> company, they can't undo fan sites surely that's half the web.
e> Anyway, $450 its a once only offer, all you guys are left in text e> newsgroups because you don't understand fair usage. Car forum sites e> are huge, there's guys selling them getting 1000 people a day all e> the time with names nowhere near as good as this. I bought it e> because in another year its gonna be emblazoned in a huge paint job e> on my Porsche to be... site or not!
e> If you ran Porsche, would you want ownership of all the fan names? e> or would you want the public on internet to develop them?
Tell John Dunkle that, and maybe he'll set you straight. The fact is...you're dead wrong. Not only "can" Porsche go after a violator...they "will".
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Mike - 06 May 2004 14:11 GMT If you click on the link it shows E-Loans.com. Since the person is not taking in to account the advice, we should just notify Porsche about the site and let them and the site owner sort it out.
Mike
> > Those are *all* Porsche sanctioned websites. If Porsche doesn't > > sanction it or bless it, it's gonna be gone. [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > Herc > www.PorscheTurbo.com |-|erc - 08 May 2004 11:53 GMT \ oo \____|\mn / /_/ /\ \_\ - FREE THE TRUeMAN - / K-9/ \/_/ - Join www.chatty.net - /____/_____\ - Webmasters join www.BannerX.net -
YOU GUYS ARE TOTAL FUCKHEADS
You don't understand squat about fair use, even Porsche wrote themselves about it, you ignored the 10,000s of sites already up.
YOUR'E JUST ALL U P Y O U R S E L V E S
You think Porsche is better than matchbox so they have more Intellectual Property rights. WAKE UP ITS JUST A f.cking COMPANY THEY DONT OWN THE WEB
Herc
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