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Car Forum / Porsche / Porshe 911 / October 2004

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3.2 litre  IDLE RPM adjust ?

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Sir Dive-a-Lot - 25 Aug 2004 22:18 GMT
My '81  911 with a replaced engine (3.2 litres '88) has an worm idle running
problem.
After replacing the hoses between the oil filler tube and the .. ??
(Mechanic did the job)

it will run ok until warm. When warm, (oil temp above 70 ) any RPM above
2000 will only fall back to 1800 when let go of the throttle.
After 10 to 20 seconds it will go back to 900 rpm (which is 100 to much). So
I will approach the roundabout to fast :-(

So I went back to the mechanic who took a special tool and removed a cover
on the left side of the engine to find:......     NO connector for the
'bypass the computer' function to adjust idling.

What has happened ?  Maybe this plug has been misplaced ? Could it have
vanished while previous owner changed the engine ?

Is there a way to adjust warm running idle rpm without the special tool ?
Could the idle valve or step motor malfunction ?
Any way to explain why this happened after replacing the hoses ?

HELP.

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marty911 - 18 Oct 2004 20:48 GMT
I do have a 911 carrera 3.2. 1984.
When I'm at a stop ligth the idle needle it's nice and smooth, but after
30 seconds the needle goes up and down
like crazy.
please, HELP
Talisman - 19 Oct 2004 05:20 GMT
I noticed the same thing with my 84' 911, in that the engine tended to
"hunt" while stopped,  particularly when I switched from highway driving to
town driving. So I asked a reputable local Porsche mechanic about it, and he
told me that although it was annoying, it was nothing to worry about.
Explaining that the fuel injected 3.2's are picky when it comes to air fuel
mixture, and that a sudden change in engine operating temperature (i.e.
switching from highway to town driving) would cause enough of a change in
air fuel mixture to cause the "hunting" I was experiencing. I noticed that
if I didn't lug the engine around town by running it at slightly higher
RPM's in town, it doesn't "hunt" nearly as often at stops.

I'm sure one of the true Porsche "wrenches" that contribute to this group
regularly will have a better answer (which I will take MANY notes on!) and
hopefully I may end up with a better fix for my 911 as well. But I just
thought I would share what I experienced, and my results. I hope this helps?

Good Luck!

Lynn
84' 911 Targa
J - 20 Oct 2004 16:31 GMT
What I have found is that a crack develops every few years on the rubber
intake boot leading from the throttle assembly to the intake manifold.
This causes the idle to hunt and run rough and some loss of power...
The part is about $40 USD from Pelican Auto parts.

Joe
1985 '911 Targa with added turbo ..

>I noticed the same thing with my 84' 911, in that the engine tended to
>"hunt" while stopped,  particularly when I switched from highway driving to
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> Lynn
> 84' 911 Targa
Mark - 20 Oct 2004 16:55 GMT
leaks in the intake system are a common issue, especially in the older cars.
Idle "hunt" is a frequent result as the 3.2 DME attempts to compensate for
the unmetered increase in air flow. With lots of rubber components, gaskets,
& hoses, the leaks can be in a number of places downstream from the air flow
sensor.

Finding the leaks can be as simple as visual examination, looking for cracks
or dislodged connections. Then there's the use of a propane torch, unlit,
directing the gas at suspected spots & listening for changes in idle speed.
On my own '84, I found that my intake manifold gaskets had deteriorated to
the point that some of the bolts were only hand-tight. Tightening didn't
help so I changed them all [12].

HTH,

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'77 Carrera 3.0
http://members.rennlist.com/hald

> I do have a 911 carrera 3.2. 1984.
> When I'm at a stop ligth the idle needle it's nice and smooth, but after
> 30 seconds the needle goes up and down
> like crazy.
> please, HELP
Don. - 20 Oct 2004 19:53 GMT
The first shock I had with my '88 back in 1998 was when a local Porsche
mechanic found leaking gas lines.  I knew him as a friend and he woulnd't
even let me drive the car home to get a ride.  He instisted on me leaving
it and he gave me a ride home.  He said that was "commom" when the cars
hit around 30K miles.  Engine had to come out and I had to come up with
$350 for the job.

> leaks in the intake system are a common issue, especially in the older cars.
> Idle "hunt" is a frequent result as the 3.2 DME attempts to compensate for
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> > like crazy.
> > please, HELP
 
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