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Car Forum / Porsche / Porshe 911 / October 2004

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1989 porsche 911 carrera Targa

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Els - 12 Oct 2004 09:50 GMT
Dear all,
My name is Els and I came from Hong Kong.
I am concerning my 1989 porsche 911 carrera Targa.
This is my " baby " which Iove it very much and I seldom drive this car as
to minimise the mileage. Up till now, it has run about 40000 miles and this
is the true mileage as it came from brand new. Nevertheless, yesterday when
I started the engine for about 10 minutes at idle speed, a kind of white
smoke was coming out from the exhaust pipe, I incresed the engine speed at
about 2500rpm, the white smoke had gone, however, when the engine is back
to the idle speed ( 900rpm ) for a few minutes, the white smoke came
again. Then, I take a drive with my Porsche, when the engine is running on
and on, the car is smooth and without any white smoke.
The oil pressure is also normal, at 2500rpm, oil pressure indicator points
to 4.0.
As I am a Porsche enthusiast, I really wish to know what the problem is
before I go to the Porsche centre, would you please state what is the
problem of my Porsche? And, is it necessary to repair it?
Many thanks,
Els
william_b_noble - 14 Oct 2004 04:41 GMT
it may be just some oil being burned, or it may be water vapor being
evaporated - did the white smoke return when you let your car idle after a
drive of at least 1/2 hour?

> Dear all,
> My name is Els and I came from Hong Kong.
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> Many thanks,
> Els
Els - 14 Oct 2004 11:23 GMT
Hi William,
Thanks very much for your reply. Well, after driving for 1/2 hour(not at
idle speed), the white smoke is gone, however if it becomes idle again for
more than 6 minutes, the white smoke comes again.
I seldom take a drive of this car, from brand new to present, it has ran
only 40000KM, and nothing at all, the paint is original Diamond Blue
metallic(special edition).
When I have found white smoke, I was really unhappy as I "believe" it is
burning engine oil, maybe the piston/valve gasket is broken, but I don't
know why the white smoke only appears at idle speed(after switching on the
engine for 5 mins), please give me some comments and show me the way.
Many thanks,
Els  
Capt Jim - 14 Oct 2004 14:40 GMT
What is the ambient temperature when this happened?

Jim
> Hi William,
> Thanks very much for your reply. Well, after driving for 1/2 hour(not at
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Many thanks,
> Els
Don. - 14 Oct 2004 14:46 GMT
> Hi William,
> Thanks very much for your reply. Well, after driving for 1/2 hour(not at
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Many thanks,
> Els

A simple compression and leak-down test will confirm rings or valves. They
are "relatively" inexpensive to do...only take it to a Porsche mechanic!
william_b_noble - 15 Oct 2004 05:15 GMT
You are right, it might be burning oil.  If you rarely drive it, and then
around Taipei (you did say you were in Taipei, right?) then you may have
built up some varnish on the pistons and the rings may be stuck (probably
the lower, "oil" ring).  As I recall the Taipei area, there really is
nowhere where you can get the car up to speed and keep it there for a long
time (an hour or so), and so the build up of varnish from the engine
combustion products is more likely.  I have fixed this situation once (but
not on a porsche) by using an oil additive that is supposed to clean the
engine inside.  You may wish to try this approach.   Or, you may just ignore
it - I dn't think it will hurt anything (except the image of the car).

An interesting experiment is to hold a rag over the exhaust to catch some of
the smoke - if it's oil, you will see and smell oil on the rag. If it's
something else, it won't smell like oil.   I don't know your exact car, I
have seen white smoke (on a mustang and on other such cars) when the
transmission modulator (on an automatic transmission) fails.  I presume your
car has a manual transmission, but it it's automatic, that's a possibility
also.

Also, what type of oil do you use? synthetic or regular

> Hi William,
> Thanks very much for your reply. Well, after driving for 1/2 hour(not at
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Many thanks,
> Els
 
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