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Car Forum / Porsche / Porshe 911 / February 2005

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Benjamin Orozco - 10 Feb 2005 22:22 GMT
I've been pulled by caps a couple of times for not having "break lights".
After they do their routine I usually ask them to confirm it by watching my
break light as I sit in the car and sure enough, they go "ON" as I press
"hard" on the pedal then they let me go. The fact is that if I press
normally, there would be not enough pressure to activate the switch.
Is there something to correct this?
Thanks much,

Benjamin Orozco
Toll free 1-832-218-4811
Vern - 10 Feb 2005 23:34 GMT
Got more specific info, what year??

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Benjamin Orozco - 10 Feb 2005 23:55 GMT
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Vern - 13 Feb 2005 04:38 GMT
http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/images/brake_parts/brakes1e.gif

Here is where I would start. Fluid change is good idea as well.

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Michael J. Sherman - 11 Feb 2005 16:16 GMT
> I've been pulled by caps a couple of times for not having "break lights".
> After they do their routine I usually ask them to confirm it by watching my
> break light as I sit in the car and sure enough, they go "ON" as I press
> "hard" on the pedal then they let me go. The fact is that if I press
> normally, there would be not enough pressure to activate the switch.
> Is there something to correct this?

I have a similar situation in my 1986 911.  I would like the brakes to
come on with slighter pressure on the brake pedal.  Is there just a
contact switch down at the pedal?

-Mike
'86 911
Mark - 11 Feb 2005 17:39 GMT
>> I've been pulled by caps a couple of times for not having "break lights".
>> After they do their routine I usually ask them to confirm it by watching
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> -Mike
> '86 911

The Carreras and SCs have two pressure actuated switches mounted on the
master cylinder. There is no adjustment.

If the lights work, but require excessive pedal pressure to turn them on,
then there are a few possibilities. One is that both switches are failing
and should be replaced before they stop working altogether. Another is that
the brake fluid is old, has accumulated moisture, created "gunk" in the
master cylinder and switches, thereby requiring greater pressure. And then
there's the possibility that your pedal is requiring greater brake pressure
due to failure or reduced effectiveness of your brake power assist unit. If
the car is stopping without excessive pedal pressure, then you can probably
rule out the power assist issue. That leaves either the switches themselves
or the gunky fluid. In either case, the switches have to come out. Once
removed, you can inspect for the gunk. I'd plan on replacing the switches,
in any case, and if the fluid is suspect, you can try flushing the system
with new fluid. If that doesn't do it, it's probably time to replace the
master.

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'77 Carrera 3.0
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william_b_noble - 12 Feb 2005 01:40 GMT
RE fluid - be sure to change the brake fluid every two years - it will save
you a lot of $$ in brake repairs

> >> I've been pulled by caps a couple of times for not having "break lights".
> >> After they do their routine I usually ask them to confirm it by watching
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> with new fluid. If that doesn't do it, it's probably time to replace the
> master.
Don. - 12 Feb 2005 04:34 GMT
>>>I've been pulled by caps a couple of times for not having "break lights".
>>>After they do their routine I usually ask them to confirm it by watching
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> with new fluid. If that doesn't do it, it's probably time to replace the
> master.

EVEN my 1968 912 had a pressure switch mounted on the master cylinder, so I'm
certain later models had something simliar.  I had the problems described
above and had to replace the master cylinder several brake lines and a wheel
cylinder.

The car was a German import from the factory and within 1 year I had to
replace a wheel cylinder. It was rusted so badly the mechanic had to blow it
out with compressed air.  It almost took his head off when it finally let go.

NEVER use brake fluid that's been opened previously, it's dygroscopic and
absorbs water from the air, that can lead to all the above problems.

Google for >"brake fluid" +water< , there are many articles.
Benjamin Orozco - 14 Feb 2005 16:37 GMT
Thanks for the responses guys, I have started on the repair sequence..
Benjamin

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Mark - 14 Feb 2005 18:52 GMT
Benjamin,

please be sure to post how you make out with it and if there is further
assistance we can give.

regards,

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'77 Carrera 3.0
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