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Car Forum / Porsche / Porshe 944 / January 2008

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Removing engine stud

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Andre - 19 Jan 2008 18:12 GMT
I got the head of my '83 944.  One of the studs that hold the head onto the
block is badly corroded.  Looks like the spacing a rounded it is filled with
carbon build up. I was thinking about replacing it.  What's the best way to
remove these?  Are they reversed threads?    Or should I just try cleaning
it (sanding it down) the best I can?

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Andre

William Noble - 20 Jan 2008 08:48 GMT
what do you mean "badly corroded"?  I'd start by cleaning it off - if the
corrosion only penetrates a little (.010 or so), then I'd ignore it - if it
goes 1/2 way through, I'd replace it - I don't believe it is reverse
threads, but I haven't personally removed one - and I've only pulled about 6
heads, never seen a corrosion issue -

If you really need to change it, first, get a replacement - it would be even
worse to get it out and discover you can't get a replacement.  there is a
special tool called a "stud remover" that you can put on a 1/2 inch breaker
bar to remove studs - but it will chew up the stud and you won't be able to
reuse it.

I wouldn't sand it down, I would use a scotch brite pad and get the
corrosion off, and then look at it and see what is really going on - and try
and figure out why it happened.

>I got the head of my '83 944.  One of the studs that hold the head onto the
>block is badly corroded.  Looks like the spacing a rounded it is filled
>with carbon build up. I was thinking about replacing it.  What's the best
>way to remove these?  Are they reversed threads?    Or should I just try
>cleaning it (sanding it down) the best I can?

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Andre - 20 Jan 2008 22:30 GMT
I think I agree with you.  I'll just clean if off as good as I can.   Sure
took a little work getting the head off.  I think the gasket leaked around
the stud causing something to seep into the space around the stud.  I'm
guessing the spacing around the stud is for oil to move between.

I did find the parts at www.pelicanparts.com for $10 each.  But I don't want
to take the chance on braking it off in the block since it's not a moving
parts, just to hold the head in place.  I'll just clean it up and save me
some extra work.

BTW: any suggestions in installing the head and cam gasket?  I got new once
but do I apply any sealing or something before installing?

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Andre

> what do you mean "badly corroded"?  I'd start by cleaning it off - if the
> corrosion only penetrates a little (.010 or so), then I'd ignore it - if
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>>the best way to remove these?  Are they reversed threads?    Or should I
>>just try cleaning it (sanding it down) the best I can?
William Noble - 21 Jan 2008 03:23 GMT
see if you can get a PDF or scan of the Porsche manual - it will be very
helpful to you

there is no selant on the head gasket - don't remember for sure about the
valve cover gasket - but it is ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL that you torque the bolts
in the right sequence, and in the exact way it tells you to.

While you have it apart, I stronlgy suggest that you change the cam seal,
and the front main seal, and the two balance shaft seals.

>I think I agree with you.  I'll just clean if off as good as I can.   Sure
>took a little work getting the head off.  I think the gasket leaked around
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> BTW: any suggestions in installing the head and cam gasket?  I got new
> once but do I apply any sealing or something before installing?

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