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Car Forum / Porsche / Porshe 944 / November 2003Brake upgrades
Hi, My last post about brake upgrades, specifically the MOVIT brakes has mysteriously vanished. Can anyone tell me who, if anyone does brake upgrades for na 944s? Much appreciated, JH BREMBO, see Performance Products or Tweeks >Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > I've searched hi & low. I cannot find any Brembo brake upgrades for the na 944. Does anyone do a big brake upgrade for the na 944? > BREMBO, see Performance Products or Tweeks > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > > >JH Jerry, I wouldn't worry about a specific brake upgrade for your 944 NA. A brake upgrade is a brake upgrade. Does your car have ABS? I've seen someone selling the two front 944 Turbo S brake calipers on eBay. Actually, I should say trying to sell. I've seen them go through twice with no bids. He's only asking like $230 for both front calipers. These are the same front brakes as on the 928S4 (a very heavy car). Adding these calipers alone would greatly increase your braking performance. And I've seen a lot of ABS control units on eBay as well. If you car does have ABS, 'd try adding the Turbo S brakes first. You'll notice a big difference right away. If your car doesn't have ABS, please, please, please add this. I'd guess any competent mechanic could add this units for not a whole lot of cash. Good Luck, Brad >Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >JH Well now I am more than just a little confused. I was under the impression that if the upgrade wasn't meant for a 944na then it wouldn't work on a 944na. Are you saying I can use, for example, 944 turbo calipers? If so is there a standard fitment so it will work without mods, or am I missing something? Also, do I need ABS to have these calipers you spoke of fit, or is it that they are so powerful I will NEED ABS to avoid skidding. If I get the ABS control unit (and all applicable fuses, relays etc.) can I then use other Porsche calipers that are ABS brakes? I know it is a pain to answer a flurry of questions, but any help at all would be appreciated. I need to redo my rear brakes, & I would like to do the best I can. Thanx, JH <Edmond Dantes>; <The Count of Monte Cristo> wrote in message news:mmi9rv85he6o0ckl0in35hst4krjueeqd4@4ax.com... > Jerry, > I wouldn't worry about a specific brake upgrade for your 944 NA. A [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > > >JH are you thinking of upgrading your brakes because you need new pads/rotors on the BACK ??? Most upgrade kits are for the FRONT, since that is where the majority of the braking effort is needed, also any brake upgrade wortth the money will require you to go to 16" and probably 17" rims.... the 944Turbo brakes require 16" rims. and speaking of money.... the basic Brembo upgrade for the Front only will run around USD $ 1,500.00 , you can get drilled rotrs and upgraded pads for a lot less then that.... DC 86 944/87 951 >Well now I am more than just a little confused. > [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > > I need to redo the rears anyway (caliper+rotors+pads), so I thought I might see if there was a more premium way to go while I'm at it. Realizing front vs. back braking from many years of motorcycling, my initial thoughts were this, anyone's opinions are more than welcome: REARS - OEM calipers, Zimmerman cross drilled rotors with metal master pads. FRONTS (when I redo them) - Turbo brakes or the MOVIT upgrade kit, which is basically a big red brake kit. Of course, when I redo the fronts it will require a move to bigger wheels all around, which is why I wanted to know if I should pull the trigger now. are you thinking of upgrading your brakes because you need new pads/rotors on the BACK ??? Most upgrade kits are for the FRONT, since that is where the majority of the braking effort is needed, also any brake upgrade wortth the money will require you to go to 16" and probably 17" rims.... the 944Turbo brakes require 16" rims. and speaking of money.... the basic Brembo upgrade for the Front only will run around USD $ 1,500.00 , you can get drilled rotrs and upgraded pads for a lot less then that.... DC 86 944/87 951 Jerry Hennelly wrote: Well now I am more than just a little confused. I was under the impression that if the upgrade wasn't meant for a 944na then it wouldn't work on a 944na. Are you saying I can use, for example, 944 turbo calipers? If so is there a standard fitment so it will work without mods, or am I missing something? Also, do I need ABS to have these calipers you spoke of fit, or is it that they are so powerful I will NEED ABS to avoid skidding. If I get the ABS control unit (and all applicable fuses, relays etc.) can I then use other Porsche calipers that are ABS brakes? I know it is a pain to answer a flurry of questions, but any help at all would be appreciated. I need to redo my rear brakes, & I would like to do the best I can. Thanx, JH <Edmond Dantes>; <The Count of Monte Cristo> wrote in message news:mmi9rv85he6o0ckl0in35hst4krjueeqd4@4ax.com... Jerry, I wouldn't worry about a specific brake upgrade for your 944 NA. A brake upgrade is a brake upgrade. Does your car have ABS? I've seen someone selling the two front 944 Turbo S brake calipers on eBay. Actually, I should say trying to sell. I've seen them go through twice with no bids. He's only asking like $230 for both front calipers. These are the same front brakes as on the 928S4 (a very heavy car). Adding these calipers alone would greatly increase your braking performance. And I've seen a lot of ABS control units on eBay as well. If you car does have ABS, 'd try adding the Turbo S brakes first. You'll notice a big difference right away. If your car doesn't have ABS, please, please, please add this. I'd guess any competent mechanic could add this units for not a whole lot of cash. Good Luck, Brad On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:47:29 GMT, "Jerry Hennelly" <GHennelly@columbus.rr.com> wrote: Hi, My last post about brake upgrades, specifically the MOVIT brakes has mysteriously vanished. Can anyone tell me who, if anyone does brake upgrades for na 944s? Much appreciated, JH what year 944 ? > I need to redo the rears anyway (caliper+rotors+pads), so I thought I > might see if there was a more premium way to go while I'm at it. [quoted text clipped - 87 lines] >> >> 1987 what year 944 ? Jerry Hennelly wrote: I need to redo the rears anyway (caliper+rotors+pads), so I thought I might see if there was a more premium way to go while I'm at it. Realizing front vs. back braking from many years of motorcycling, my initial thoughts were this, anyone's opinions are more than welcome: REARS - OEM calipers, Zimmerman cross drilled rotors with metal master pads. FRONTS (when I redo them) - Turbo brakes or the MOVIT upgrade kit, which is basically a big red brake kit. Of course, when I redo the fronts it will require a move to bigger wheels all around, which is why I wanted to know if I should pull the trigger now. "D Corley" <douglas.corley@alcatel.com> wrote in message news:Uxctb.2$yr.6809@nntp1-sf.pbi.net... are you thinking of upgrading your brakes because you need new pads/rotors on the BACK ??? Most upgrade kits are for the FRONT, since that is where the majority of the braking effort is needed, also any brake upgrade wortth the money will require you to go to 16" and probably 17" rims.... the 944Turbo brakes require 16" rims. and speaking of money.... the basic Brembo upgrade for the Front only will run around USD $ 1,500.00 , you can get drilled rotrs and upgraded pads for a lot less then that.... DC 86 944/87 951 Jerry Hennelly wrote: Well now I am more than just a little confused. I was under the impression that if the upgrade wasn't meant for a 944na then it wouldn't work on a 944na. Are you saying I can use, for example, 944 turbo calipers? If so is there a standard fitment so it will work without mods, or am I missing something? Also, do I need ABS to have these calipers you spoke of fit, or is it that they are so powerful I will NEED ABS to avoid skidding. If I get the ABS control unit (and all applicable fuses, relays etc.) can I then use other Porsche calipers that are ABS brakes? I know it is a pain to answer a flurry of questions, but any help at all would be appreciated. I need to redo my rear brakes, & I would like to do the best I can. Thanx, JH <Edmond Dantes>; <The Count of Monte Cristo> wrote in message news:mmi9rv85he6o0ckl0in35hst4krjueeqd4@4ax.com... Jerry, I wouldn't worry about a specific brake upgrade for your 944 NA. A brake upgrade is a brake upgrade. Does your car have ABS? I've seen someone selling the two front 944 Turbo S brake calipers on eBay. Actually, I should say trying to sell. I've seen them go through twice with no bids. He's only asking like $230 for both front calipers. These are the same front brakes as on the 928S4 (a very heavy car). Adding these calipers alone would greatly increase your braking performance. And I've seen a lot of ABS control units on eBay as well. If you car does have ABS, 'd try adding the Turbo S brakes first. You'll notice a big difference right away. If your car doesn't have ABS, please, please, please add this. I'd guess any competent mechanic could add this units for not a whole lot of cash. Good Luck, Brad On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:47:29 GMT, "Jerry Hennelly" <GHennelly@columbus.rr.com> wrote: Hi, My last post about brake upgrades, specifically the MOVIT brakes has mysteriously vanished. Can anyone tell me who, if anyone does brake upgrades for na 944s? Much appreciated, JH the 87 944 turbo brakes (also known as 928S4 brakes) should bolt up to the 87NA without modification but you will need to go to 16" rims to fit.... I am not sure if the backs will bolt up, I believe the rear suspension is diff between the NA and the Turbo... > 1987 > [quoted text clipped - 92 lines] >>> >>> Are you sure about this? I thought the 1988 Turbo S was the first 944 to use the 928S4 brakes. Brad 1988 944 Turbo S 1989 944 >the 87 944 turbo brakes (also known as 928S4 brakes) should bolt up to >the 87NA without modification but you will need to go to 16" rims to [quoted text clipped - 97 lines] >>>> >>>> that is what I have been told, my son kept trying to get me to put his S4 brakes on my 86 NA after he upgraded his 928... never did.... upgraded the car to an 87 951, but the pads on the 87 951 are the same pads as on the 87 S4 ... but there were major suspension chagnes in 88 so may only apply to the 85.5 to 87 model years. D Edmond wrote: >Are you sure about this? I thought the 1988 Turbo S was the first 944 >to use the 928S4 brakes. [quoted text clipped - 119 lines] > > 87 944 Turbo brakes will not work on an 87 NA 944. The spacing of the mounting ears is smaller on the NA. If you upgrade to the spindles from the 87 turbo, then you have to use the brakes. Cheers, Bob the 87 944 turbo brakes (also known as 928S4 brakes) should bolt up to the 87NA without modification but you will need to go to 16" rims to fit.... I am not sure if the backs will bolt up, I believe the rear suspension is diff between the NA and the Turbo... Jerry Hennelly wrote: 1987 "D Corley" <douglas.corley@alcatel.com> wrote in message news:p3dtb.3$yr.6380@nntp1-sf.pbi.net... what year 944 ? Jerry Hennelly wrote: I need to redo the rears anyway (caliper+rotors+pads), so I thought I might see if there was a more premium way to go while I'm at it. Realizing front vs. back braking from many years of motorcycling, my initial thoughts were this, anyone's opinions are more than welcome: REARS - OEM calipers, Zimmerman cross drilled rotors with metal master pads. FRONTS (when I redo them) - Turbo brakes or the MOVIT upgrade kit, which is basically a big red brake kit. Of course, when I redo the fronts it will require a move to bigger wheels all around, which is why I wanted to know if I should pull the trigger now. "D Corley" <douglas.corley@alcatel.com> wrote in message news:Uxctb.2$yr.6809@nntp1-sf.pbi.net... are you thinking of upgrading your brakes because you need new pads/rotors on the BACK ??? Most upgrade kits are for the FRONT, since that is where the majority of the braking effort is needed, also any brake upgrade wortth the money will require you to go to 16" and probably 17" rims.... the 944Turbo brakes require 16" rims. and speaking of money.... the basic Brembo upgrade for the Front only will run around USD $ 1,500.00 , you can get drilled rotrs and upgraded pads for a lot less then that.... DC 86 944/87 951 Jerry Hennelly wrote: Well now I am more than just a little confused. I was under the impression that if the upgrade wasn't meant for a 944na then it wouldn't work on a 944na. Are you saying I can use, for example, 944 turbo calipers? If so is there a standard fitment so it will work without mods, or am I missing something? Also, do I need ABS to have these calipers you spoke of fit, or is it that they are so powerful I will NEED ABS to avoid skidding. If I get the ABS control unit (and all applicable fuses, relays etc.) can I then use other Porsche calipers that are ABS brakes? I know it is a pain to answer a flurry of questions, but any help at all would be appreciated. I need to redo my rear brakes, & I would like to do the best I can. Thanx, JH <Edmond Dantes>; <The Count of Monte Cristo> wrote in message news:mmi9rv85he6o0ckl0in35hst4krjueeqd4@4ax.com... Jerry, I wouldn't worry about a specific brake upgrade for your 944 NA. A brake upgrade is a brake upgrade. Does your car have ABS? I've seen someone selling the two front 944 Turbo S brake calipers on eBay. Actually, I should say trying to sell. I've seen them go through twice with no bids. He's only asking like $230 for both front calipers. These are the same front brakes as on the 928S4 (a very heavy car). Adding these calipers alone would greatly increase your braking performance. And I've seen a lot of ABS control units on eBay as well. If you car does have ABS, 'd try adding the Turbo S brakes first. You'll notice a big difference right away. If your car doesn't have ABS, please, please, please add this. I'd guess any competent mechanic could add this units for not a whole lot of cash. Good Luck, Brad On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:47:29 GMT, "Jerry Hennelly" <GHennelly@columbus.rr.com> wrote: Hi, My last post about brake upgrades, specifically the MOVIT brakes has mysteriously vanished. Can anyone tell me who, if anyone does brake upgrades for na 944s? Much appreciated, JH it's possible to upgrade to bigger break if you take the 928 S4 caliper ( i dont know if the turbo one is the same thing) and make a adapter for the spindle of your 87 NA! read Excellence No: 115 for all you have to know about bigger brake ont the 944! nemð 1987 944 S >87 944 Turbo brakes will not work on an 87 NA 944. The spacing of the mounting ears is smaller on the NA. >If you upgrade to the spindles from the 87 turbo, then you have to use the brakes. [quoted text clipped - 84 lines] > > |
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