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Car Forum / Porsche / Porshe 944 / February 2005

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Removing S2 alarm system

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Derek Beaumont - 21 Feb 2005 11:36 GMT
Hi All,

I've had to get an alarm fitted on my UK '90 S2 to keep the insurance
company happy and now need to disconnect the factory fitted alarm that came
installed on it (I think it has problems anyway), is there anything special
I need to do as I'm guessing that I can't simply unplug the device as this
would immobilse the engine.

Regards

Derek
Monty Python Fan - 21 Feb 2005 13:29 GMT
> Hi All,
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> Derek

My insurance company insisted on an immobiliser - in addition to the
factory fitted imm and alarm. I now have two imms and an alarm - works
fine in combination. Not sure about two alarms, though - did the company
who fitted alarm two not advise you?
Derek Beaumont - 21 Feb 2005 13:57 GMT
> My insurance company insisted on an immobiliser - in addition to the
> factory fitted imm and alarm. I now have two imms and an alarm - works
> fine in combination. Not sure about two alarms, though - did the company
> who fitted alarm two not advise you?

The company who fitted my second alarm were supposed to disconnect the
original one (needs doing to fulfil the thatcham approval) but they didn't
touch it, they did however remove the second immobiliser that was on the
car.

I had a few issues with the alarm when I first bought the car (not disarming
from passenger side) so I thought then when the new alarm was fitted and the
old disconnected the problem would go away, the problem isn't as bad now as
I now have remote central locking. but I have a problem with the battery
loosing charge over night and am currently trying to locate the culprit and
thought I'd disconnect the alarm first to see if it's that.

Regards

Derek
Dave Ryman - 21 Feb 2005 22:30 GMT
>> My insurance company insisted on an immobiliser - in addition to the
>> factory fitted imm and alarm. I now have two imms and an alarm -
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> Derek

Maybe you should go back to them and demand that the job be completed as
required. Your Insurance company presumably directed you to them, having
selected them from their panel of approved fitters - hence the insurance
company will be interested if they aren't up to scratch.

There is a fault that can develop on the factory fitted alarm, that
happened on my '89 944. The alarm is fitted with a small back-up battery
so it can still raise the alarm if the main car battery is dead. This is
trickle-charged whilst the engine is running. However, the fault causes
it to charge all the time, even when the ignition is off, resulting in a
dead car battery. Having the alarm enabled or disabled whilst the car is
parked makes no difference: the back-up battery continues to trickle-
charge regardless. The solution seems to be to disconnect the trickle-
charger/back-up battery on the alarm (there must be a better fix!). This
approach certainly seemed to fix the problem for me when it happened.

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Monty Python Fan - 21 Feb 2005 22:32 GMT
>> My insurance company insisted on an immobiliser - in addition to the
>> factory fitted imm and alarm. I now have two imms and an alarm -
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Derek

Maybe you should go back to them and demand that the job be completed as
required. Your Insurance company presumably directed you to them, having
selected them from their panel of approved fitters - hence the insurance
company will be interested if they aren't up to scratch.

There is a fault that can develop on the factory fitted alarm, that
happened on my '89 944. The alarm is fitted with a small back-up battery
so it can still raise the alarm if the main car battery is dead. This is
trickle-charged whilst the engine is running. However, the fault causes
it to charge all the time, even when the ignition is off, resulting in a
dead car battery. Having the alarm enabled or disabled whilst the car is
parked makes no difference: the back-up battery continues to trickle-
charge regardless. The solution seems to be to disconnect the trickle-
charger/back-up battery on the alarm (there must be a better fix!). This
approach certainly seemed to fix the problem for me when it happened.
doug - 22 Feb 2005 01:34 GMT
the factory Porsche alram system  kills the ignition when disturbed.  it
is an "immobilizer"

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Monty Python Fan - 22 Feb 2005 10:15 GMT
> the factory Porsche alram system  kills the ignition when disturbed.
> it is an "immobilizer"
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There are two factory fitted systems on the '89 944. One is an alarm,
which is disabled by the remote. The other is an immobiliser which is
disabled via a special key inserted into the steering column.
 
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